Kazane Frames
 

I'm never, ever gonna own an NJS frame, there I said it. I have stupid things like baby clothes, food and rent which take all my money.

These frames seem like a cheaper alternative, and look the part too (way prettier than my Pake). I'm very interested in them, but can't see anything about them. Can't see any builds, not even any fgg posts.

I know there was a thread about the launch of this brand, what I want to know is follow-up from people who bought one and pics of their build.

many thanks.

I got all of my NJS frames for less than the price of a Kazane, one of which came fron Stratton.

I've seen one, but that's because I live in Richmond, which is where Keirin Culture is based out of. I love them. I plan on getting one sometime around summer.

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Eyes on teh 'bay. Used, for sure but still.

And Made in Japan by highly qualified and experienced framebuilders, as opposed to coming from Taiwan...

NOT MINE!
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That red metal flake on black looks really nice.

How tall are you? I'm 6'1" and need a 57-58cm frame. Hen's teeth.

Those Kazane frames look nice, but they are like, 600, and you can get a decent NJS frame off ebay for that with a headset and a bottom bracket and those NJS bikes are hand built by VERY reputable builders with an incredible amount of care. Better than you could ever hope to get out of a frame built in taiwan in some large factory.

There is something not quite right with this sentence but I cannot put my finger on it....

Not trying to start ****, but all he said was that was the reason he's seen one - because he's from Richmond, which makes sense. He wasn't saying the only reason he thinks they're nice is because he's from Richmond.

That said, they seem like nice frames, but not what I'd ride for the price.. just my 2 cents.

Thank you, Sage. I'd think they're nice regardless of where they're from.

True you can find a NJS frame used for under $600 from time to time but there is one thing to keep in mind... it was CRASHED. Maybe there is nothing wrong... and maybe there is. Not saying I would buy either the Kazane or the NJS frame (i'm just not into lugged steel) because of that fact but it should be taken into consideration. Compared to any NEW steel track frame for around $600 it's a pretty damn good deal.

Maybe someone else in the know can back me up on this. I think the Kazane is the same frame as the Alien Bike frame. (Alien is a FGG supporter) The Alien frame is cheaper and they offer your choice of paint colors.

http://www.alienbikes.com/gear.html

Exactly. I'm 6'1" too, but I ride like a 60 because my legs are so long. Finding a 60cm njs frame? Not gonna happen.

They are not the same frames... this was already covered in another thread about Kazane frames.

Yeah - that's a great point too. You're never going to get a 60cm njs frame for that price!

For what it's worth, I rode my friend's and it felt great.

They look great in person, too. The paint is really nice.

i bought both of my nagasawas for the price of that kazane.... keep searching for your elusive njs frame

find me a 60cm nagasawa then.

'kin oath.

That's not to say I wouldn't love it if I could find one.

Yeah, that's what I'm sayin'

You might be able to find a Nagasawa for that price - but a 60cm? Yeah right!

Yeah, your bikes are kinda tiny and tiny njs framesets are relatively easy to come by and cheap. But trying to find something njs with 54.5cm tt and st or larger, personally I would like a 57st and 56tt, that's nearly impossible and if you do find one in that size, a dented frameset will still be around $700-800 plus on the cheap end. Minus well just get a new panasonic for that price. But italian frames come in bigger sizes usually but usually are well used too with not the best paint jobs and with so many fakes out there who knows what you're buying. I do think those kazanes look nice, are a little overpriced, but honestly, give it a couple of months and there should be a few on your local craiglist with headset and bb for around 300-400 bucks anyway, just in time for summer.

These things are fugly from the pics above.
And you can def get a non-****ed up NJS frame for less than 600.
Maybe not from money money keirinculture.com but most of their prices are way too high. Which explains why some of them stay on the site for months at a time.

False. My most recent Bridgestone had barely any evidence of even being ridden, let alone crashed. I was hard pressed to find a paint chip.

It was 55cm square btw. $580 shipped out of Japan.

Yes your silver Bridgestone was immaculate.

haha what? it was blue! and the one before that was red...