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sirshan 03-15-08 10:48 PM

Anyone with a Miche Supertype - Please Read
 
So I have my Brand New Miche Supertype with less than 30 miles. I see my saddle and notice it moved too far forward and decide to adjust it...until...

I look at the little hex key to losen the saddle, and I see no bolt to losen. It either fell out or broke off...when I look in the hole, I clearly see that its threaded and I see some silver in there as if it stops at a certain point or the bolt broke halfway and the rest fell out somehow???

This sounds weird, but anyhow...I need to know how that bolt is. Can any of you unscrew it to see if its a bolt that can indeed be removed and replaced or is my seat just stuck now? If anything, Ill need to tap out the bolt...but I never removed it completely out, so I dont know how it actually works.

Can anyone help? Its the small bolt on the rear of the post with the text labeled "Close >>>".

letsthrowfries 03-16-08 01:11 AM

I lost the same bolt riding on a trail, now my saddle squeeks annoyingly.

Ep3licious 03-16-08 03:02 AM

yeah its a bolt and it does come out. ive had 3 of em and i never had that problem.

did you remember to tighten it when you first installed it ?

jdms mvp 03-16-08 06:59 AM

i haz miche supertype, i can measure the bolt pitch and length for u tomorrow

Surferbruce 03-16-08 08:20 AM

good luck finding a replacement. i had one, lost the little screw and was told by the rep they aren't available for replacement. they also said it'd perfectly fine to use without it, which i did for a couple years with zero problems.
if it's broke off in there, you'll need to drill or tap it out, but you don't need it to use the post safely.

roadfix 03-16-08 10:24 AM

That little set screw does back out on occasion. The seatpost should be perfectly functional even without it.

Surferbruce 03-16-08 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by roadfix (Post 6352122)
That little set screw does back out on occasion. The seatpost should be perfectly functional even without it.

i think yours was the first one i saw actually.

Gyeswho 03-16-08 12:28 PM

the screw is useful for adjusting the angle of your saddle when you don't want the saddle rails to move forward or back. that's weird if the screw broke because it is really tiny
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/...8bc8af54_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/...21d19015_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2304/...676f6a86_b.jpg

For those wondering how it works: The lip where the label front is holds the top piece and the screw tightens in the back to keep the rails in place without loosing your spot. Then you adjust the saddle angle, tighten, and you're set
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2182/...d46891a5_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2165/...a1c23e5f_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2029/...88d40678_b.jpg

Surferbruce 03-16-08 01:41 PM

an over complicated design. i sold mine and went back to a much more pedestrian easton one bolt.

Klink 03-16-08 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Surferbruce (Post 6352868)
an over complicated design. i sold mine and went back to a much more pedestrian easton one bolt.

I never was able to utilize the mini-bolt for changing saddle angle. Then recently I noticed it had fallen out. I fretted it for a minute. Then realized I was just back to a simple one bolt post and continued to ride it all the same.

Not to mention the amount of pull it eliminates in cross winds.

roadfix 03-16-08 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Surferbruce (Post 6352868)
an over complicated design.

I agree. A simple clamp head would make this seat post looking even better, especially when used with open rail saddles.

operator 03-16-08 01:57 PM

What a complicated system.

na975 03-16-08 02:14 PM

get them @ homie depot

Gyeswho 03-16-08 02:18 PM

i think it's really clever

roadfix 03-16-08 02:21 PM

All it is is just a safety system in case the binder bolt should break for some reason, the saddle will not separate from the post. Now, how often does that happen? It adds too much clunkiness to an otherwise nice looking post.

sirshan 03-17-08 02:00 AM

Thanks for the reply guys...I thought that thing allowed me to adjust rails. I took off the entire seat clamp and what happened was my seat moved so far forward, it almost locked in place. I just used a rubber hammer and the clamps let came apart.

Anyhow, to me it looks like that screw doesnt do anything significant. I do however want to replace it since mine fell off (no Im not sure if I tightened it when I installed it).

Does anyone know the size of the screw yet? I think Im going to go to Lowes or somewhere to see if they have a fit.

Thanks,

Sean

* Thanks for the responses...great pics too.

sirshan 03-17-08 02:02 AM


Originally Posted by jdms mvp (Post 6351390)
i haz miche supertype, i can measure the bolt pitch and length for u tomorrow

Please let me know size and pitch if you have that...it would be a huge help to find the replacement.

Thanks!

LóFarkas 03-17-08 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by Surferbruce (Post 6351606)
good luck finding a replacement. i had one, lost the little screw and was told by the rep they aren't available for replacement.

Miche themselves may not sell a replacement but a grub screw like that is definitely replaceable from a good shop that sells bolts. Here we have shops that specialize in screws, bolts, nails and perhaps tools. They have all the funky stuff you may want.

mander 03-17-08 06:26 AM

OT: Old DA posts have a nicer (IMO) system where the post clamps from the bottom with one bolt, but a second small bolt comes in from the front and acts as a stop so you can "index" where you were in angle adjustment while moving the seat forward or back.

http://www.bikepro.com/products/seat...1a_da_side.jpg

jdms mvp 03-17-08 07:52 AM

imho two bolt > one bolt

and yea when i first used the supertype i couldn't figure it out lol. it is over engineered, but i guess it's not a "terrible" thing

lunacycle 03-17-08 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by roadfix (Post 6353065)
All it is is just a safety system in case the binder bolt should break for some reason, the saddle will not separate from the post. Now, how often does that happen? It adds too much clunkiness to an otherwise nice looking post.

Once is too much...

I had a seat binder bolt break once during a cyclocross race. Scared the ***** out of me (damn near skewered it out of me, too!)

That was the main reason why I went with the Miche Supertype for my track bike.

crushkilldstroy 03-17-08 09:32 AM

I wasn't interested in the Supertype at all until I saw all of the techno-geekery involved. Now I want one.

MTBMaven 04-19-08 06:36 PM

I had a bolt on an American Classic break once. Put a nice slice in my inner thigh; way too close to stuff that matters. That was pretty scary.

jinws 04-20-08 01:54 AM

anyone know where i can find a supertype in 26.8 or 27?

turning down a seatpost or reaming a seattube just doesn't sound safe to me.

operator 04-20-08 09:37 AM

AFAIK supertypes are only available in 27.2.


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