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Old 04-13-08, 03:37 PM
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I'm pretty sure you're not saying anyone should go buy a new Osprey for commuting, but if you go to a high end backpacking shop you're going to drop 200+ on a pack that isn't even vaguely appropriate for cycling. This is in addition to the fact that positioning on a bicycle will fit a pack far differently than for hiking. Hell, the way a pack fits for hiking is dependent on a huge number of things too. Riding with a 30+ liter technical pack is pretty miserable in most scenarios. Doing grocery runs with one is similarly crappy because of how they're loaded. Side loading/split panel designs exist, but they are generally expensive and still not all that great for riding. Hip belts get in the way. Almost all molded shoulder pads aren't designed for having your arms forward all day. You get the point.

I just ordered a black bag recently to deal with this. I only really need the carry capacity for shopping/grocery runs (standing in the store having to decide between toilet paper and beer is difficult) that are always <10 miles and possibly commuting if I get another job... I have a few small backpacks and a messbag/briefcase for school and little errands, and proper backpacks for hiking. One of the cycling specific packs might not be so irritating as a high capacity black hole but I don't have any experience with those designs. The wide opening on messenger bags and their ease of access is still the main attraction for me.

The point here is that diversity is key. Preference plays a big part, but don't be stupid. No bag is perfect for all applications. Using high end backpacks on a bike is just moronic. The cheaper backpacks don't have nearly as many considerations and are generally appropriate if you can find the capacity/fit you need, but I think the trade off between capacity and fit comes sooner with these, especially if you'll be stuffing them full from time to time.


BTW: Being afraid of looking hip is just as bad as being afraid of not looking hip.
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Old 04-13-08, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BLIMP View Post

The point here is that diversity is key. Preference plays a big part, but don't be stupid. No bag is perfect for all applications. Using high end backpacks on a bike is just moronic. The cheaper backpacks don't have nearly as many considerations and are generally appropriate if you can find the capacity/fit you need, but I think the trade off between capacity and fit comes sooner with these, especially if you'll be stuffing them full from time to time.


BTW: Being afraid of looking hip is just as bad as being afraid of not looking hip.
well spoken. I think with some hunting 2 strap packs can be found the fit comfortably for riding, and I wasnt suggesting a large technical pack. I will take a messenger bag over a backpack for big loads any day, hands down. But for a smaller pack, I find a nice north face or any number of other (usually climbing oriented) packs are capable of providing a very comfortable wear.
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I'm talking about daypacks. And if you get one that fits right they are great. There are plenty of packs that fit you in cycling position for cheap. My small north face was like $40 2 years ago. Also, the comment about look hip was an attempt at humor, lighten up.
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I ride to school with a hiking backpack. It has a tight mesh part that keeps my back aired out, and a lot of weight and uncomfortableness off my back. I've been able to ride 70 miles with it, no problem.
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Hah. You'll get the humor down with more practice. Text isn't really a good medium to say something stupid and then go OMG JOKE! afterwards.

There isn't much advice you're going to get at a backpacking shop for a $40 North Face pack, so I'll save everyone the trip: Buy a size that fits your shoulder width and don't wear it like a dumbass. Heavy stuff goes towards the inside and bottom!
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Old 04-13-08, 04:37 PM
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I have 2 sling-type and 1 backpack.
I wore my Large Push The Envelope sling bag for a year and a bit and loved it on the bike. Perfect with large and small loads, no need to constantly readjust the bag. The only complaints were when I got off the bike and was walking around the city. It made my right shoulder sore after a bit of walking and it kinda bothered me that the load was uneven. I didn't really feel like messing up my back in the future.
So I made the jump and got a large Freight Backpack. It looks kinda redic. and wish I went with a Medium but its insanely well made and it feels perfect on and off the bike. Theres a ton of features I really like and can tell Travis has put a lot of thought into the design. It really makes sense! I don't think I've had any problems fitting or carrying around large objects as it does have extension straps to buckle down on odd sized objects that don't fit inside the bag itself.
To me, my backpack is the most versatile and comfortable for what I need it for.
I still use my sling bags whenever I feel like it, but they are both currently loaned out to my friends and I'm perfectly happy and satisfied with my backpack.
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Old 04-13-08, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sr20det View Post
So I made the jump and got a large Freight Backpack. .
This bag sounds great. There are some shots on Flickr and Iím really interested now. The site doesnít seem to load on my browser, where did you order yours from?
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Old 04-13-08, 04:51 PM
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on second thought, I'll upload all my pictures onto flickr later.

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kozmo.com bag lulz!
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it sucks ass. it fits super weird and doesn't really make much sense to me.
I gave it away and at least its being used by my friend.
I don't think I'll be getting any other chrome products any time soon.
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Old 04-13-08, 06:26 PM
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i have a discontinued columbia messenger bag which is pretty much a complete and shameless ripoff of a timbuk2 bag, with a few improvements. the closest i could find to it on the internet is the columbia jetsetter, but that's discontinued too.
first, it's somewhat longer from side to side, which means that even though the straps aren't angled, the attachment points can pull on the bag in a way to make the entire bag wrap around your back, and also allows the bag to tilt in a way that makes it easy to put on the main strap.
second, it has elastic mesh pockets on the outside to hold stuff; a nalgene, plastic bags for my saddle, random rags for whatever need.

i had a high sierra backpack which i used to use a lot, but i haven't touched it in a year because the messenger bag is so comfortable WHEN I'M ON THE BIKE. it must be pulled tight though, and you have to learn how to use the horizontal strap. that strap placement differs for different bags; some go around your waist, some are meant to go under your armpit. fiddle with it until you figure it out.

off the bike it's not very comfortable when there's a heavy load in it. in fact, if you don't have it tightened properly, it'll feel like crap when you're riding too, and it's a shame to see so many people riding with messenger bags that are adjusted incorrectly, making the use of them nearly pointless. also, for long rides, yes, your back may get sweaty. for me though, this only happens in weather where i would've sweated with a backpack on too.

i personally think that if you find the right one, it'll be very comfortable. the waterproof property and the large compartment are awesome too. also, the straps used to secure the flap are great too; i used mine to ride a new wheel home yesterday.
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Old 04-13-08, 09:09 PM
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My Chrome Metro fits me like a glove. Every backpack I've ever owned, hiking included, always made me feel like a turtle.

The adjustablity of the messenger bag is a plus on the bike too. Whereas a bag will slip in only one way (down), a backpack will slip both ways. To me, knocking my bag back into place is second nature, because I know exactly where it's gonna end up. The on-the-fly adjustments on the Chrome (and all others of that style) is a plus too.

Getting the seatbelt hit by an ******* is always a liability though.

Plus, the organization scheme of the messenger bag is a major, major plus over backpacks. At least, for school they are. The lack of zippers to blow out is another plus (my mom eventually refused to repair zippers for my backpacks). Actually, that's the biggest plus.

This all said, I'm actually really interested in one of Chrome's rolltop bags and/or a Reload backpack for the ultimate in cargo overkill.
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Old 04-13-08, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by operator View Post
Sounds like you're the self conscious one here, not others.

Not at all! the point was made because so many people are afraid of being called posers or fakengers or what ever. If you fell like a poser let go of it and just ride if you love to ride,unicycle tricycle, fixed... whatever!!

Trust me When I am done gardening, (yes, I plant flowers and love it) I am so fu<king dirty sometimes that if anyone is looking at me is not because of what bag I have on my back, my bike or how I ride it. It is because I look like a homeless man who is stealing the bike........
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Originally Posted by geeknerd99 View Post
My Chrome Metro fits me like a glove. Every backpack I've ever owned, hiking included, always made me feel like a turtle.

The adjustablity of the messenger bag is a plus on the bike too. Whereas a bag will slip in only one way (down), a backpack will slip both ways. To me, knocking my bag back into place is second nature, because I know exactly where it's gonna end up. The on-the-fly adjustments on the Chrome (and all others of that style) is a plus too.

Getting the seatbelt hit by an ******* is always a liability though.

Plus, the organization scheme of the messenger bag is a major, major plus over backpacks. At least, for school they are. The lack of zippers to blow out is another plus (my mom eventually refused to repair zippers for my backpacks). Actually, that's the biggest plus.

This all said, I'm actually really interested in one of Chrome's rolltop bags and/or a Reload backpack for the ultimate in cargo overkill.

Those chrome rolltops look sweet. I really want to try one out, but I have my bag necessities covered and am having trouble justifying one
Anyone use a rolltop who could shed some light on the subject.
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does anyone use a Ortlieb backpack, like this one:

Aside from looking like a space age dorksack and having MESSENGER BAG emblazoned in huge letters, it seems like a pretty decent bag.
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does anyone use a Ortlieb backpack, like this one:

Aside from looking like a space age dorksack and having MESSENGER BAG emblazoned in huge letters, it seems like a pretty decent bag.
My only concerns with a bag like that is that it looks like it lacks any sort of structure in the way it's made, I would invision this being rather uncomfortable, though that's just in my mind. Also, i find one of the major advantages to a 2 strap pack is the padding between the cargo and my back, which sometimes can be a bit uncomfortable in a mess bag, if there are corners etc digging it. Kind of looks like a float bag with straps sewn onto it. bet it's REALLY waterproof
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I can't really rock the minimalist hip-bag thing since I think I'm the only person around who uses one of those really long U-locks that won't fit in the mini-Kryptonite holsters.

I am a fan of messenger bags over backpacks because of the way they sit on me while I'm riding. A backpack has the tendency to shift upward toward my head, making things really uncomfortable if I'm bent down in an aero position, really trying to haul ass. My Chrome bag stays in the same place horizontally and vertically, assuming that I tighten all of the straps properly. That, and I'd better enjoy a bag I dropped $130 on.
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well reload has a "hip pouch" with one built in. I'm going to be using a plain black N.O.S. small fannypack i got for $3 with an $8 fabric horse holster on the strap, much cheaper than the reload version

hip pouch on this page
http://reloadbags.com/bags/list.php?t=accessories

holster here
http://www.fabrichorse.com/index.php...ybelts&item=73
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I find with messenger bags, it's very much about how you pack them - heavy stuff low and inside. There are days when my messenger bag is heavily loaded and very comfortable, and others when it's fairly light and rather uncomfortable. I think the difference is packing.

Sometimes I use one of these. It protects my back from anything that has corners and also keeps clothing nice and neat.
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True= Packing is key
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Try this for carring your stuff. Holds alot of crap!

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Originally Posted by nathbdp View Post
**** style. **** messenger bags. **** being hip.



THAT is all,

you need.
I have an Alice pack, an old school knockoff Alice style pack, and an Eberlestock pack for mountaineering/badassery with a rifle in the woods. None of these compares to the Seagull black bag for ridin to school with a full load for me atleast.
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I got my gf a chrome bag cause she wanted to be a hipster. she complains all the time that her shoulder hurts. God damnit why cant the woman just listen and pay attention to how i adjust it. But yeah you need to learn how to propperly adjust the messenger bags. I use mine every day and ride bart with it. Without riding a bike. I love it. But i should have gotten a bigger one. The only downfall is the zip pocket only holds 1/4 oz and my piece and lighter. LOL I love that its waterproof and traps the smell when zipped closed.
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lol dude u get so hi. incognitus. ignatius? you wear an ugly hat.
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Originally Posted by 1Rider View Post
Try this for carring your stuff. Holds alot of crap!
thats bad ass.
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Originally Posted by kergin View Post
I start to get aches in my shoulder and arm, not to mention the constant reach around to shift the bag into place.
that's what she said.
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