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fixie changes for spins, wheelies, etc.

Old 04-13-08, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by beethaniel
you can always go with a smaller cog on the other side of your rear hub so you can have a normal riding gear, and use the 19 for tricks, that should be a low enough gear.

also, getting a "real" track bike, something with track bike geometry might also be beneficial, but that is just my opinion.
I considered previously running an 18t freewheel on the flip flop. I thought 48:19 WAS a good gear ratio for city streets/hills. I feel like my knees might get too stressed running 48:17, though it is tempting on the downhills!
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Old 04-13-08, 11:30 PM
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Also, I want that "real" track bike, one day! Have to get that "real" job first... thanks.
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Old 04-13-08, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ridingsu
Also, this is the bike in case the pic helps with any details...

From the looks of it youve got one of those older conversions which is good because it has a really long wheelbase and lax headtube angle, but that fork rake might be too much. SO youd prolly benefit from a new fork. I would consider going threadless for alot of reasons.\

First youve got alot more stem options from 1 inch to 1.1/8 (todo 1.1/8 you can use a shim)

Second most threadless stems have a removable front plate which makes switching bars a breeze ( i.e. leave on set of bars with your brake lever and caliper attached, or have a set of drops for the velodrome).

Third threadless headsets are cheap and work really well, and give your more fork options. You can use threaded forks as long as the steerer tube is long enough to fit some spacers and your stem.

I know that spicer makes a good track fork for like 100 bucks, or goto your lbs and ask them about a replacement fork, the one i goto said they could get me a threadless road fork, 43mm rake, chromed, 1 inch, for like 40 or 50 dollars. So weigh your options, youll find out quickly that every mm matters when it comes to clearance.
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Old 04-13-08, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ksyrius
I dont get why alot of people here try to force their conception of what riding should and shouldnt be, i see nothing wrong with trying to push the envelope or experimenting with different styles of riding. You can always go back if you dont like it. So despite what alot of people have been saying, i think that your asking a good question, and i dont think that wanting to do tricks automatically means get a bmx. For the simple reason that you have to get another bike which btw is alot less versatile.

OK with that being said i can give you some tips on how to setup your bike to facilitate learning/doing some of the common tricks.

A big thing to consider when doing barspins is the amount of clearance you get when your wheel is flipped around 180deg. Most bikes arent gonna bspin a 700 and even if they do the clearance is probably pretty ****y. But almost all bikes will do a 650c, the biggest factor here is the fork rake and the crank arm length. Shorter cranks like 165mm ones work the best, and for fork rake the less the better. Most road forks are 43mm and track forks range from around 40mm to 25mm, njs is 30mm. Alot of older road bikes that are great for conversions have really long fork rake, my bike wouldnt even bspin a 650. So if this is the case youll prolly need to find a fork, i took one of a 80's bianchi and it worked fine, but you can find track forks and road forks all over the place that will work. If your running a conversion on a newer road bike with really tight geometry even all these tips might not give you that much clearance. (head tube angle, and wheelbase length are other factors that affect clearance, as is pedal size and toe clip size)

For your bars and stem get risers, probably with at least 1 inch rise, and cut them short. Shorter bars spin faster, but as long as they clear your tob tube its good enough. For the stem the less reach the better, because when you flip a stem with alot of reach its gonna feel akward.

As for wheelies obviously a lower ratio will help you learn but its not the most important thing. balance and pedal form are more important

as said before 1 tooth probably wont help you that much, but a drastic difference might. All of the artistic cycling bikes use a 1:1 ratio.

If you get a 650c i agree with some of the comments above, a strong wheel with say 32 holes and 3 cross lacing is probably the way to go when you start learning, because its gonna take alot of abuse at first. But once you get the hang of it there are alot of crazy carbon wheels to be found if thats your thing, but remember carbon wheels are more likely to break than a traditional wheel, and if you get a flat on a tubular your f'd.

Besides your setup the most important thing is obviously practice.

- BMX good idea ? yea i think so, ive seen kids get ridic on bmx. It would be a good way to learn technique. Id like to get one once i get some money together, it looks like a lot of fun. BUt like i said before its not nearly as versatile as my fixed.
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Well put sir...
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Old 04-14-08, 02:55 AM
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i'm with ksyrius, even if you don't like the way people ride their bikes, the sooner you answer their question and get a reply that says 'thanks for the advice wise sages!' the sooner the thread will get buried.

also, ridingsu, with the exception of the somewhat janky 'i'm a conversion' front wheel, i'd say that thing is looking pretty nice.
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Old 04-14-08, 03:00 AM
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It's kind of goofy to change that much on your bike just to do one or two tricks, but if that's what you really feel that you need to do, go for it. It would work, but as mentioned before, your front wheel would look silly.

I plan on eventually building a bike with track geometry (I'm rocking the road geometry right now for commuting) specifically for crazy tricks.
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Originally Posted by sandwiches
It's kind of goofy to change that much on your bike just to do one or two tricks, but if that's what you really feel that you need to do, go for it. It would work, but as mentioned before, your front wheel would look silly.

I plan on eventually building a bike with track geometry (I'm rocking the road geometry right now for commuting) specifically for crazy tricks.
Yea its kinda goofy, but then again i was assuming it was a conversion bike. Because if you started with a track bike you wouldnt have to worry about the fork rake or the crank length. You would just need a 650 and proper bar/stem setup.

BTW there are endless amounts of tricks to do with or without a 650, but barspins do look cool.
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Originally Posted by trons
you need a hed3 for barspins...
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Old 04-14-08, 09:18 AM
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