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Old 04-13-08, 04:53 PM
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Mr. Tuffy convert

So, I got 3 puncture flats in my rear 700x28 Conti Ultra in short order, and installed a Mr. Tuffy strip because it was cheaper than going for Armadillos or something right away. Anyhow, I haven't noticed any negative performance change, and I just pulled a huge piece of glass out of the same tire. Guess I'm just happy to find something that works.

P.S. No, I don't work for Mr. Tuffy.
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Old 04-13-08, 05:07 PM
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If I want to use Mr. Tuffy strips, is there a limit to how thin my tires can be?
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Old 04-13-08, 05:11 PM
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I've used tuffy's....they do prevent flats, but the added rolling resistance is notable...at least it was to me. I bought a pair for some conti ultrasports (literally, the worst tires ever made) that kept flatting. The tires were bad enough, but adding the tuffy liners made me feel like I was constantly going uphill, and actually caused me to gear my bike down until I got better tires. The better solution is better tires.
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Old 04-13-08, 05:15 PM
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I thought about using them with ultralight and soft tires that invite punctures, hoping that it results in a tire that's still pretty light but decently flat-proof.

Or would this compromise completely negate the smooth feel of a light and tubular-like clincher such as the Veloflex Pave?
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Originally Posted by bexley View Post
If I want to use Mr. Tuffy strips, is there a limit to how thin my tires can be?
Mr. Tuffy liners come in different widths for different tires. They are color coded for width, so even a moron can figure it out
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Pfft tuffies. Get some tires with real flat protection.
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Originally Posted by bexley View Post
I thought about using them with ultralight and soft tires that invite punctures, hoping that it results in a tire that's still pretty light but decently flat-proof.

Or would this compromise completely negate the smooth feel of a light and tubular-like clincher such as the Veloflex Pave?
Not worth it. The weight and performance disadvantage of a good puncture resistant tire (such as a gatorskin) is much less than the weight and performance disadvantage of adding a tuffy liner to a high end racing tire. Tuffy liners will increase the puncture resistance of a **** tire, but they are no substitute for a good tire.
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Old 04-13-08, 05:20 PM
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Though I don't like the mess, I prefer goo tubes on my SS. I've got Tuffy's on the BMX though, and they've stopped glass and metal, among the hundreds of thorns they've denied.
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I run them on my commuter. They are awesome for that application.
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Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
The better solution is better tires.
FU steel beads!
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Gatorskins put tire liners to shame.
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armadillos ftw
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Tuffy's saved my ***** the other day. Dropped the chain on my steamroller, locked up the rear wheel, and skidded a hole right through the tire.

I stuck a patch on the whole as a boot, but it wore through after a few miles, so most of the 10 miles back was on the Tuffy (this was on a rear tire btw, at maybe 40-50 psi - I need a better pump)

I never notice any change in weight or anything, I just run my tires 5 psi or so less than I would w/o them
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Pfft tuffies. Get some tires with real flat protection.
http://www.airfreetires.com/
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How dare you sully BF with that nonsense?
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Not to bring back my own expired thread or anything, but pulled another big chunk of glass out of my rear tire today. I'll try the Armadillos when these tires were out, but for now, hells yeah to the liners.
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Old 04-19-08, 05:18 PM
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I removed Mr. Tuffys from my tires. No matter how carefully I rounded and feathered the ends, they either pinched my tubes and caused flats or they wore through some of the cords in my tire and ruined an otherwise good tire.
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I used a pair for a year, and they were great. Especially in Arizona with goatheads and glass. Too bad they got stolen while on my old road bike.
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