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yet another skid thread

Old 04-14-08, 10:15 AM
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yet another skid thread

recently i changed my ratio around a bit just to try something new, before i didn't skid as much but when i did it didn't take much effort( i was at 48x18) i wanted to try something new so i went with 48x17 and it's been much harder for me to skid but i realized if i'm going to be skiding i should atleast have enough skid patches so i don't waste my tires so fast. would 48x19 be a better choice as far as ratio gos for skidding? or should i try to get use to the 17? i don't care for wheelies, barspis or w/e just a second method to stopping just incase my front brake fails me. also i live in SF with massive hills so skidding is essential imo, otherwise i'd be killing my pads everytime i need to slow down going down the hills.
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Old 04-14-08, 10:16 AM
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front brake failing you?
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Old 04-14-08, 10:17 AM
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Old 04-14-08, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jdms mvp View Post
front brake failing you?
i meant when going down hills, mostly i prefer to skid so i'm not killing my brake pads so fast.
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Old 04-14-08, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ebawho View Post
delete.
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Old 04-14-08, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by squidswarm View Post
i meant when going down hills, mostly i prefer to skid so i'm not killing my brake pads so fast.
Dude, brake pads will last alot longer thant a skidded tired, even in SF. Plus, they are like a couple of buck, tops, to replace. Just use a gear that is comfortable and use the brake as needed. Also, I know the hills are pretty intese, but you can always just resist the forward movement (without skidding) with the use of the brake.
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Old 04-14-08, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by squidswarm View Post
i meant when going down hills, mostly i prefer to skid so i'm not killing my brake pads so fast.
brake pads last A LOT longer than tires. seriously. like, A WHOLE ****ING LOT longer. and they are cheaper.

skidding and thrashing your tires bi-weekly just to save on brake pads is, well... ********.
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Old 04-14-08, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by squidswarm View Post
i live in SF with massive hills so skidding is essential imo, otherwise i'd be killing my pads everytime i need to slow down going down the hills.
When last I checked, brake pads were cheaper than tires. I rode fixed in SF with a hand brake and found the brake to be more reliable and effective than skidding.

Just admit it, you want to be like the cool kids.
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Originally Posted by metaljim View Post
brake pads last A LOT longer than tires. seriously. like, A WHOLE ****ING LOT longer. and they are cheaper.

skidding and thrashing your tires bi-weekly just to save on brake pads is, well... ********.
indeed. i understand that but i mean like ya know sometimes skidding is necessary. i didn't mean skidding the entire hill down if that's what you're thinking ahah. i just meant to slow down a bit. i just down pedal/skid w/e for like a sec, then build up speed again. it helps me control my bike a lot better. guess i'll just have to learn better braking skillz ;P
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Originally Posted by carleton View Post
When last I checked, brake pads were cheaper than tires. I rode fixed in SF with a hand brake and found the brake to be more reliable and effective than skidding.

Just admit it, you want to be like the cool kids.
tr00, you caught me :|
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Old 04-14-08, 10:34 AM
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To answer your question, 48/17 is a great ratio for skidding, that's what I use.
I also have a front brake.
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Originally Posted by hudsong View Post
To answer your question, 48/17 is a great ratio for skidding, that's what I use.
I also have a front brake.
i see. how about for massive hills up and down? like climbing?
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Old 04-14-08, 10:40 AM
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I rode 48/18 and 48/19 in SF. Lots of spinning, but easy to climb and easy to stop.
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Old 04-14-08, 10:41 AM
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48x18 worked ok for me but climbing was still a mission. would 19 make any difference at all?
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Originally Posted by squidswarm View Post
indeed. i understand that but i mean like ya know sometimes skidding is necessary. i didn't mean skidding the entire hill down if that's what you're thinking ahah. i just meant to slow down a bit. i just down pedal/skid w/e for like a sec, then build up speed again. it helps me control my bike a lot better. guess i'll just have to learn better braking skillz ;P
you're a dumbass.
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Old 04-14-08, 10:51 AM
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you're a dumbass.
Yeh, i'm a noob. so enlighten my taint, sir elitist.
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[edit]^^ what the guy above the guy above me said

when is skidding necessary?
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Old 04-14-08, 10:55 AM
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[edit]^^ what the guy above the guy above me said

when is skidding necessary?
when ever the**** you feel like it is, when the **** else?
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hes obviously new to this whole "thing." Cut him some slack. Don't be a dick.

Yes 48x19 will make you skid "better" but it may suck for long rides.
48x18 is gonna suck as far as skid patches go
48x17 isn't like a HUGE gear ratio or anything. You should be able to skid this pretty easily.

Your other option is to change your chainwheel. 47x18 sounds good if you can find it.
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Old 04-14-08, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SinVoz View Post
hes obviously new to this whole "thing." Cut him some slack. Don't be a dick.

Yes 48x19 will make you skid "better" but it may suck for long rides.
48x18 is gonna suck as far as skid patches go
48x17 isn't like a HUGE gear ratio or anything. You should be able to skid this pretty easily.

Your other option is to change your chainwheel. 47x18 sounds good if you can find it.
i see. thanks for the help.
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Old 04-14-08, 11:27 AM
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Go for 48x19 and learn to spin, spin, spin. Give your knees a break too.
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Old 04-14-08, 11:41 AM
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48x17 bad on the knees?
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Old 04-14-08, 11:42 AM
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I ride 46x17 and it's dreamy. And I only learned to skid to be more like the cool kids. (However, I do find that it is a very effective stopping technique, in addition to brakes.)
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Old 04-14-08, 01:33 PM
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I have 2 bikes. One is at 48x18 and its perfect. The other is at 47x17 and its perfect, too. For me on Seattle hills, 48x17 was slightly too hard and slow. 1 tooth on the cog can make a big difference.
 
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the best way to stop, or slow down quickly, on a big hill is to use a combination of both front brake and skid/hop. i know you wanna kick out the rear end like you see in videos, but that really doesn't do anything to really help. it just looks cool. yes, it may help a small amount to regulate your speed, but it's hurting you throwing your bike off axis, essentially into a lay down, then kicking yourself back up by pedaling again. doing that **** (and yeah, i do it too sometimes) just increases your chances of eating **** in traffic. just something to think about.

but nothing is going to stop you better, quicker, cheaper, and smoother than a brake. simple as that.
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