26" wheel frame with horizontal dropouts, AND der hanger?
 

OK, so the utility bike I'm dreaming of building could be a lot of different things with a simple wheel change. I'm looking for a frame with the versatility to do it all.

It's gotta have:
1. Horizontal dropouts or track forks for fixed or internall geared hub
2. Canti Studs it's gonna be a heavy cargo bike, it needs good brakes
3. Should work well with 26" wheels and possibly 650b
4. derailer hanger in case I want to run a derailer

It would be nice if it also had:
1. A nice compliment of braze-ons for racks and fenders
2. Decent butted chromoly tubes


This bike will definitely get fenders, and a Cetma 5 rail.

Thinking about it a couple of things that would work well would be a Kogswell PR, or a nice older MTB with horizontal dropouts. Can anyone recommend any particular frames new or old that would meet these criteria?

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Pretty hard to beat the P/R for this kind of application.

Thorn has some great looking 26" touring bikes but I'm pretty sure they have vertical dropouts.

Old MTB is probably the way to go if you want to save $ though.

I would check out the Surly 1x1.
http://www.surlybikes.com/1X1.html
No derailure hanger though. If you get really creative you can always get one with an adaptor.

I'm thinking my ideal would be a Bridgestone XO-1, but I think any Bridgestone XO or MB model would probably fit the bill

The really old MB-1s would be great for this too, those things had a wheelbase like a dump truck and were comfy as hell.

80s-90s mountain bike. My SS around-town ride is a late-80s Hardrock. I stupidly sawed off the derailleur hanger, but otherwise it matches your criteria. Fender-compatible and decent tubeset, too.

please dont abbreviate dérailleur ever ever again; it sounds like you're making fun of germans.

Yeah I would check out the Gary Fisher Ferrous too

My 90's rockhopper fits that desription.

Yep. Sounds like your dream bike is a steel Specialized MTB. Just like everyone else said.

Don't you have to file out the dropouts on those? No big deal, but still worth mentioning.

just get a pugsley and be done with it.
the ultimate utility bike.

Some of the models had a filled semi horiz dropout. Nothing a drill or dremel can't fix.

minus the canti bosses that sounds like my new custom (sorry).

Its a strange combination of things to ask for, and trust me the bike looks a little weird built up.

PS. you could only get that kind of wheel size versatility with disk brakes.

You described my early-90s Schwinn Mirada exactly, except it's 4130. I believe the Mesa Runners were built the same as well.