Ill Mitch

Thought I'd add to all these hub threads.



I'm thinking about getting the Cane Creek Track V wheel-set, and I was wondering if anybody has any first hand experience with these hubs.

Nice and smooth? Feel solid on the street?

Any input is appreciated.

EDIT: On their site they say that with the nipples located at the hub it significantly reduces rotational weight, is it enough to really feel noticeable while accelerating?

NitroPye

Cool looking but I wouldn't ride that wheel set on the street. Just me, too much $$$ for a nice wheel set that by design will suck with cross winds and are probably not built with pot holes in mind.

If it was for a bike that will see time on the track and time on the street, ya, definitely they look like a nice compromise.

Ill Mitch

Yeah this bike gets ridden both on the street and on the track.

sp00ki

my friend rode them for awhile, but recently had to swap them out. the hub/wheel simply doesn't stand up to the abuse of riding on the street.
can't speak for track, though.

NitroPye

I wish there was a track near me

Jenkinsal2

I think you would be alright with some larger sized tires on them throw some beefy 28s on and you should be good.

frankstoneline

as do I.
I would be hesitant to throw those on a bike that sees the street,
though if they are going to hit the track seems completely reasonable. Are those the tubular ones or no?
I thought I had seen them both as clinchers and tubular.

Ill Mitch

The track v's are clinchers, the Volos come in both tubular and clincher and the higher end wheelsets with carbon rims are tubulars.

anomaly

I've seen them ridden, but not ridden them myself. There was a guy in Oregon who has 10,000 or more miles on his wheels and he says they have held up very well.

Yoshi

I have the older hubs that are very similar. I have ridden them on the streets a handful of times but mostly just to and from the track. Nowadays I just leave the wheels in storage at the track and ride to/from the track on clinchers. I never had any problems with street use but again that was extremely limited. I wouldn't want to use those wheels full time on the street.

kzac

I have a friend that rides them on the streets. Light and fast, holding up fine. Of course, he won them at an alleycat, so he isn't losing much no matter what happens.

frankstoneline

Oh ok, I was thinking of the Volos.
If it was me, I would buy a set of tubulars off of bicycle wheels and a set of the cxp22's to formulas, ride the 22's on the street, and the tubs on the track. I think you will get better results from the two options.

akaio

I have the volos from last year. They hold up fine on the streets. And I have been on the track twice with them. I think they are a great compromise for doing both.

Nims

I've got the Volos track with Tufo tubs on them, exclusively street use. I rode ~120 miles last week... Holding up fine so far!

mihlbach

I personally would be less concerned about their durability and more concerned about how much of a pain in the ass those wheels would be to retension and true, in comparison to a wheel with more traditionally designed parts.

SuperVillain

I've got the Volos clinchers, wrapped in 25c Conti GP4000s. Yes, they accelerate faster, and they slow down faster as well. Very smooth, very rigid, very bling. Beautiful wheels all around. I ride them on the road as there's no track within hundreds miles from me. I run them on my nice bike, which I'm usually wearing a jersey and eating Clif bars while riding. I wouldn't use them for commuting (I've got Formula/DP18s on a conversion for that). FWIW these wheels are by far the nicest components I've ever owned and I wouldn't have even considered them in the first place if I hadn't gotten a screamin' deal.

Soil_Sampler

they used the same style hubs on most of their mountain and road wheels(discontinued).

https://www.canecreek.com/store/wheels.html

Kol.klink

Bling'n wheels, If they ride as nice as they look i would be very interested in a set depending on $

What is Causes more stress on a wheel Street or track use?


I suppose it would be street.

eXCeSS

havent seen too many tracks with potholes.

queerpunk

okay, all this "the street" talk is ridiculous.

"a bike that sees the street" means a million different things. in the course of my delivery job, i ride miles on cobblestones and up and down curbs. this quite literally rattles my bike apart. wheels rarely go out of true, but my headset comes loose, my rear wheel slides forward, and my seatpost comes down. yes, i know how to set up my bike. it only happens during delivery shifts - takes about three shifts for me to need to tighten everything again.

that's unusual terrain.

of course, i ride a lot of ****ed-up streets here in nyc to and from work.

but i've lived plenty of places where "riding the streets" meant, well, riding some nicely paved stuff. in fact, riding smoother terrain than one is likely to encounter at Kissena Velodrome.

so don't talk about "the street" - specify the kind of use you're likely to put on a wheel.

queerpunk

anyway, a friend of mine rides these on new york city streets, but not as everyday wheels. more like, for nice-ride wheels.

i have a set sitting on my shelf for a tracklocross prize. they appear well-built, with nice bearings. but it would take a couple of weeks of riding to really figure out what they're like.

Landgolier

Hate to break it to everybody, but the rims on that wheelset are.....

::drumroll.....................

VELOCITY DEEP V's

The #1 BFSSFG approved, mad tuff 4 teh streetz (at least if you can't afford arrospok), OMG Marcus built me a set and Chuck Norris jumped up and down on them WITH HIS MIND and they didn't have to be trued, rim of choice.

ps -- the volos use aeroheads, also a good, tough rim

Yoshi

Actually that's not true. They may be made by Velocity (I don't know) but they aren't standard Deep-V/aerohead rims as the spoke holes are much smaller to accomodate the inverted spokes.

Ill Mitch

I was also considering the American Classic track clinchers https://www.amclassic.com/track_clincher.html

They're significantly lighter than the Cane Creek wheels, but after searching it seems that they've had some issues with the hubs in the past, anyone know if there are still hub problems with these?

Yeah, the rims on the Cane Creek wheels are probably just deep v's with custom drillings for the cronos hubs.

Landgolier

They are the same, the spoke holes are just drilled differently.

As for the OP's question, yes, in theory you can spin up a wheel with the weight in the middle faster than one with it at the rim. In reality, standard brass nipples are only 1g each and even saving that is slightly offset by additional weight from the peening of the spoke end, so until you've also gone to a race-only tire, an ultralight tube, and thought long and hard about whether the aero effects of a beefy 30mm rim are worth the 150g or so weight penalty per wheel, that hub system is mostly just pretty. I can see it a little more on the aerohead or tubular version or if it were a carbon rim, but running a deep V and then trying to cut weight at the rim is just silly.