Getting rid of toe overlap?
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Getting rid of toe overlap?
I've read around and everyone says I'll get used to it, but I'm having the hardest time doing so..
I've got a 50cm spicer/mercier frame. I'm running MKS GR9 pedals, and Soma SM/MD cages. I'm running 170 IRO cranks and I still get about an inch of overlap.
I'm thinking about straight out buying a new frameset.. but I was looking for alternatives. Any suggestions?
I've got a 50cm spicer/mercier frame. I'm running MKS GR9 pedals, and Soma SM/MD cages. I'm running 170 IRO cranks and I still get about an inch of overlap.
I'm thinking about straight out buying a new frameset.. but I was looking for alternatives. Any suggestions?
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Remove the toes...problem solved.
I doubt you will find a true track bike in that size without overlap.
I doubt you will find a true track bike in that size without overlap.
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Umm that frame is really tight, because of the size. for starters your fork has a 37.5 rake. this is not so bad given the headtube angle so you could probably go with a 40 rake on the fork and not notice too much of a difference. next you need to get rid of those crappy iro 170 cranks and put on a set of 165 cranks. you will be well on your way with those two changes and the small-ish cages on your pedals. if you need more, buy the small size cages for the pedals. they wont be too bad , i mean how big can your shoe really be with a 50 frame?
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There could easily be an inch difference between that and running clips.
Toe overlap is a non-issue for me. I instinctively avoid making contact.
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Do you actually find yourself kicking the tire often?
My Trek conversion probably has an inch and a half of overlap and I only experience contact when doing super tight turns at super low speeds, which is rare.
My Trek conversion probably has an inch and a half of overlap and I only experience contact when doing super tight turns at super low speeds, which is rare.
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Yes.
1. Why does toe overlap make you nervous? Are you often kicking the tire?
2. Toes can be removed.
3. Shorter crank arms? You're riding a perty small frame, I assume ur prolly a short person. 170's might be WAY huge for you.
1. Why does toe overlap make you nervous? Are you often kicking the tire?
2. Toes can be removed.
3. Shorter crank arms? You're riding a perty small frame, I assume ur prolly a short person. 170's might be WAY huge for you.
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Deal with it. It's a fact of life when you ride small frames. I have the same frame, same pedals, with 165mm cranks. There's definitely toe overlap, but it's never been anything more than an annoyance.
The other option would be to get much, much taller so that you could get a frame large enough to not have toe overlap with 700c wheels.
The other option would be to get much, much taller so that you could get a frame large enough to not have toe overlap with 700c wheels.
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My 56 road bike has overlap about two inches down the shoe. My cross bike even has overlap. The best thing you can do is to practice a lot at slow speeds so that you realize when you're about to hit the tire. This will also teach you how to deal with it when it does happen.
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The reason why I'm thinking about buying a new frameset is cause I'm not sure if I want something with track geometry anymore.. since I dont think I'll ever go to the track. Did it for the street cred of course..
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hmmm...is the geom just really tight together or sumthin? u may want to try a conversion if ur truly set on changing framesets, i did one and i love it
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Thanks. I tried this out a bit today and I'm sure I can get the hang of it after awhile.
My previous bike/borrowed bike was a fuji track. I'm not sure if this geometry is very different, but both bikes feel very different. But that could be for many reasons.. (diff frame size, geometry, different parts)
But the conversion might be something I'll really like.. I'll look into that a bit. Doesn't seem as if their are any benefits (for me) riding a frame with track geometry.... besides the steet cred.
But the conversion might be something I'll really like.. I'll look into that a bit. Doesn't seem as if their are any benefits (for me) riding a frame with track geometry.... besides the steet cred.