bexley

https://www.velo-orange.com/dotoeclst.html

Thoughts?

Their products are usually well researched and tested, so I'm holding out the unreasonable hope that these are noticeably better than the synthetic Soma doubles.

If they don't last long but feel alright, replacement isn't much of an issue at that price.

(Was out of town for a bit--hope this hasn't been brought up yet.)

onetwentyeight 

QBP is offering cheap double straps through their dimension house brand. Im kinda thinking thats possibly what those are.

peabodypride

They seem to not have a laminate sandwiched in the middle, like the old SOMA ones.

edit: fwiw, I had the old soma ones. They didn't stretch horribly but did stretch noticeably. Worth $25 but not much more than that.

chadbrochill17

Meh, They might be worth it for $25, but I still wouldn't trust leather w/out laminate.

Jabba Degrassi

What about artificial leather (which is what those are)?

peabodypride

^I'm positive any <$100 double is going to be "artificial" leather. As I said these are most likely the exact same SOMA doubles before they added a laminate. Almost sure of it. And yes, no matter what the material it will stretch... stores will say anything to get you to click the "Purchase" button.

Jabba Degrassi

Soma's website indicates their straps are genuine leather. These indicate synthetic.

peabodypride

The site does not. And vendor sites indicate synthetic for the new "classic" laminated ones: https://orange20bikes.com/bikeshop/in...roducts_id=181

*NEW* Soma Laminated SYNTHETIC Double Toe Straps!!!


All I'm arguing is that the Velo Orange straps are the *OLD* version Soma ones without laminate, and they are barely worth $25.

Jabba Degrassi

Well at least we agree on one thing.

bexley

Worth it for finding out whether doubles are your cup of tea.

$25 is basically the cost of MKS singles (which turn unusably limp in a short time), and for this wannabe-vegan the synthetic aspect is a plus.

hazylines

The older somas are way better than the new laminated doubles. I Broke the new doubles in less than four months of riding, in a very short time they were delaminating and simply falling apart causing them to snap down the line. Toshis are where its at though. If your getting doubles, its money well spent.

With that said, the old somas still arent worth much, but Id say for 25 bucks they cant be beat for the budget rides/beater bikes.

chadbrochill17

+1 for toshis. You're going to spend the same amount of money on toe straps in the long run. Might as well pay for it all up front.

andre nickatina

Laminated straps are seriously the only way to go. I wouldn't ride anything else.

But I mainly ride clipless these days, so my "beater" pedals (beat up old Toshi doubles on MKS Sylvans) are just collecting dust

rduenas

Those are probably the same as Dimension double straps.

I don't even ride fully brakeless and I've had stretching issue with the regular leather straps.

I ended buying some Toshi double's at my LBS and I've never looked back.

I've heard some issues with the Toshi's snapping when used with GR9's. But I can't really vouch for that.

hazylines

****, I run toshis on my gr-9s..

MIN 

i saw that at veloshop here in portland advertized as vegan double straps. interesting spin to serve to the local flavour du jour, eh?

cc700

spin is universal. nothing is without spin.

neverjared

It never fails to amaze me when people walk into the shop wanting to buy the cheapest stuff or ask for used stuff. It's going to break. It's going to suck. Save your money. Disconnect the internet. Save that $20/month for ten months and get some nice straps.

Jabba Degrassi

Holy ****, how much does your shop charge for toshis?!

cc700

400 dollars, and if you don't pony up he'll shoot hip rays out of his eyes at you which force you to leave.

imthewalrus

I'm a total cheapass. I'll admit it. I bought a pair of those from AEBike and they're really cheap feeling. They're wearing out from me slipping my feet in and out of the straps. I don't know how long they're going to last but I'm guessing not terribly long, although I'm pretty easy on my stuff. Other than full out sprint starts, I don't put too much wear on my straps since I have a brake. I'm kinda weary of spending $100 bucks on something that can be removed from my bike without tools. If you want cheapo doubles, jerry rig some nylon straps together and call it a day. They're pretty durable. I actually made some using Gorilla tape, which is some hardcore duct tape. It's pretty much canvas with a sticky back.

bionnaki

more info please...

do you mean toshi's are no good when you add longer bolts on gr9s? I dont understand why that would be.

reedreeder

errebi sprints for the win.

onetwentyeight 

my errebis delaminated on me eventually. they were good while they lasted though. ive had good luck with MKS.

andre nickatina

I haven't heard of a single pair of Errebi's that didn't de-laminate. If you're handy with leather or the DIY thing, I'm sure you could figure out a way to glue them back stronger than they were originally.