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what exactly is "too tight"

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Old 05-29-08, 09:09 AM
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As I said, I have tried the chainring bolts, they are as tight as I can make them, tomorrow morning I will try to loosen the wheel a little and see what that does to it. It has horizontal dropouts, so should be easy enough to adjust.

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theres a few things in this thread that i find confusing.

1) how are you dudes over tensioning. sometimes i dont get my **** tight enough, or it loosens made quick.
2) track stands are harder with a loose chain, is this bizzaro land?
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Originally Posted by the_don
As I said, I have tried the chainring bolts, they are as tight as I can make them, tomorrow morning I will try to loosen the wheel a little and see what that does to it. It has horizontal dropouts, so should be easy enough to adjust.

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well you can't just tighten them, you need to tighten them in a pattern similar to tuning a drum. Go around and skip every other bolt if i remember correctly, i haven't done it in ages. This is so that they get tightened evenly.
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I always learn something new here. The tightening of the bolts makes sense.
I am riding the sugino rd crank and chainring and it may just be a bit out of round but it is hardly noticeable.
 
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Originally Posted by andrewssohip
well you can't just tighten them, you need to tighten them in a pattern similar to tuning a drum. Go around and skip every other bolt if i remember correctly, i haven't done it in ages. This is so that they get tightened evenly.
When tightening an object with fasteners 360 degrees around, you should use the star method.
https://z.about.com/d/autorepair/1/0/...ch-pattern.gif

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Originally Posted by kringle
When tightening an object with fasteners 360 degrees around, you should use the star method.
https://z.about.com/d/autorepair/1/0/...ch-pattern.gif
which is also, every other one...haha
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p.s. dont use your fingers.


use a wrench to push off your chain while testing it
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Originally Posted by andrewssohip
which is also, every other one...haha
You're right for bike applications, since most cranks are 3-5 bolts.

The star pattern is universal.
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I know about the star tightening method, its the same as for tightening disc brakes. What i meant was I can't tighten the chainring bolts any because they are already tight.
I noticed that the rear wheel is a little unstraight. Just 1-2mm off center at the brake caliper. Can this cause problems like creaking in the drive train?
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Originally Posted by the_don
I know about the star tightening method, its the same as for tightening disc brakes. What i meant was I can't tighten the chainring bolts any because they are already tight. I noticed that the rear wheel is a little unstraight. Just 1-2mm off center at the brake caliper. Can this cause problems like creaking in the drive train?
Which direction is it off? Are you using chain-tensioners? If the wheel is pulling to the drive side 1-2mm, then that might cause creaking from the frame itself. If it's to the left, then probably not, as the drive side isn't "overtight" rather, it's actually further forward than the non-drive side.
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It effrects the front crank bearings and rear bearings,you feel more resistance when pedaling as compared to no chain.
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Originally Posted by the_don
I know about the star tightening method, its the same as for tightening disc brakes. What i meant was I can't tighten the chainring bolts any because they are already tight.
I noticed that the rear wheel is a little unstraight. Just 1-2mm off center at the brake caliper. Can this cause problems like creaking in the drive train?
Creaking in a drivetrain can be caused by lots of different things. Other areas to check are bottom bracket, seatpost collar is tight, saddle is not loose, fork/stem/bar setup, crank arm tight on the b/b, pedel bearings are good.
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if you don't mind chains snapping on you while bombing hills you'll be fine.
I dont know what kinds of chains that you have or how long before you replace it,but I 250 and my chains are steel and I never snapped a chain.
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I have a 3 month old langster, I think that it could be the wheel being not quite straight. It was fine before when set in the fixed position.

Mark, please, u really don't know what u are talking about. It the chain is too tight riding fixed it can put a lot of pressure on it.
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thanks to everyone offering advice, I will let u know how it goes!
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the don- make sure the wheel is straight in the seatstays and track ends, also loosen the chainring bolts and retighten them, unless you put the chainring on they might be uneven, but first try recentering the wheel.
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Originally Posted by mark9950
I dont know what kinds of chains that you have or how long before you replace it,but I 250 and my chains are steel and I never snapped a chain.
Somehow I doubt your experience on a bargain basement wal-mart cruiser translate well to the world of fg.
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Originally Posted by jasonmansey
2) track stands are harder with a loose chain, is this bizzaro land?
agreed. I'm a lot less twitchy with a slack chain, and I like to stand in that floating spot right between engaging forwards or backwards and see how long I can hold it. Passes time at lights.
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IMHO, This is too loose... and it has gotta be damn cold there!
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