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smp22 06-03-08 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by burnsadam (Post 6810012)
i ride track drops in the city, and they're not useless at all. you can ride the stem when you're just cruising, or get in the drops to sprint. i also love getting in the drops to climb steep hills...it feels like you can get more leverage and muscle your way up the hill better than on the hoods.

++

but then I'm on my first road bike. I feel like maybe I should try flat bars or something cause it would reflect more of what i'm used to (bmx and mnt), but yeah ... lovin the drops. I like to grip up by the stem too when i'm chillin but it makes me nervous cause my brakes are far away and I'm riding a SS.

Yoshi 06-03-08 11:46 AM

Personally I think track drops don't do a single thing right for street riding - there is no flat portion to ride (so you have to grip right near the stem), the bends are too severe to grip well while climbing and the drops are too deep for most street riding. I think 9 out of 10 people using track drops on the street would be better served using road drops. Hell, I use road drops on the track!

That said, I don't begrudge people who ride track drops on the street, so long as they are at the very least plugged. I wish more people would wrap them (and wrap them properly - how many times have I seen track drops with only the drops wrapped when the rider is never in them, or when only the tops are wrapped - suggesting that the rider never uses the drops).

trelhak 06-03-08 01:38 PM

My favorite is the Oury grips with the ends cut out so they can be slid all the way up the bars up against the stem, at which point the drops are left bare and unplugged.

I see a few riders on the track who have the left side of their bars wrapped all the way to the stem and the right side have only the drops wrapped. It makes slingshots in the Madison easier, but it still looks goofy.

I'm waiting for that to catch on among the street riders.

I have road drops on my street fixed-gear, but I am in the drops pretty much exclusively. I've been riding in the drops so long anything else feels way too upright.

peabodypride 06-03-08 01:56 PM

I say let people ride however wrapped, oury-d, un-wrapped, nekkid, or whatever else floats their boats. bullhorns, deep track drops, shallow ergo drops, double *****s, butterfly, helix bars, whatever the hell makes you happy. who are we to say what is and isn't practical for their applications? who knows what type of riding they do, if they wear gloves, or anything else about them? maybe they're in the bike shop right now getting tape for their un-wrapped bars. there are much more important things in life than to worry how someone else touches pieces of metal.

the only thing I really can't stand that totally defies all logic is un-capped drops.

Yoshi 06-03-08 01:57 PM

I have road drops on my track bike with grips on the drops. The rest of the bar is unwrapped. I really like grips for track racing primarily because they last longer than most bar wrap, but I hate riding to and from the velodrome since my hands are sliding all over the rest of the bar.

Yoshi 06-03-08 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by peabodypride (Post 6811659)
I say let people ride however wrapped, oury-d, un-wrapped, nekkid, or whatever else floats their boats. bullhorns, deep track drops, shallow ergo drops, double *****s, butterfly, helix bars, whatever the hell makes you happy. who are we to say what is and isn't practical for their applications? who knows what type of riding they do, if they wear gloves, or anything else about them? maybe they're in the bike shop right now getting tape for their un-wrapped bars. there are much more important things in life than to worry how someone else touches pieces of metal.

the only thing I really can't stand that totally defies all logic is un-capped drops.

Yeah I honestly don't care that much. It just annoys me, much in the same way that riser bars seem to annoy some people (in that I believe that the wrapping I see is solely for fashion).

But +1 million to the uncapped drops. That's just dangerous.

Jabba Degrassi 06-03-08 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Yoshi (Post 6811676)
Yeah I honestly don't care that much. It just annoys me, much in the same way that riser bars seem to annoy some people (in that I believe that the wrapping I see is solely for fashion).

But +1 million to the uncapped drops. That's just dangerous.

How else am I supposed to install "speed holes" in my thighs?

This is the only way you that gets the angle right..

jpdesjar 06-03-08 02:15 PM

i have wine corks in my drops...the wine color matches my frame color

4zn_balla 06-03-08 10:23 PM

hai guys! I learned t3h spinzz! <----seriously i did. I just had to hack off the little nubbin that allows you to flip the pedal easier to get into the clips

peabodypride 06-03-08 10:24 PM

what does the pedal tabbie have to do with barspins O__O

Breakthru 06-03-08 10:38 PM

I have risers on my daily, and just finished another ride with some drops on it. Have to say i'm still getting used to it. I'm on the line of whether or not i'm going to put some flat bars on it.

iamthenoise 06-03-08 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by abeyance (Post 6803702)
no. you fail.

HAHAHA

mangpress 07-23-08 01:52 AM


Originally Posted by peabodypride (Post 6814952)
what does the pedal tabbie have to do with barspins O__O


wheel clearanz. lezz overlap.

BYRDO444 07-23-08 02:02 AM

with risers you get more leverage for wheelies and whirlybirds, therefore making them easier. and with my bike i can spinnnnn em :)

dddave 07-23-08 04:35 AM

as much as i loved my risers when i had them, i love my bullhorns more. i'll keep the risers for variety, though.

2slo2run 07-23-08 08:10 AM

I can't ride flat bars comfortably (yet)
I busted up my wrist pretty good last winter and had surgery on it. It still hasn't gotten to the point of maximum range, it hurts to twist at the angle necessary to ride straight bars. Bullhorns or drops and I can't use the flat top section for more than just a few blocks...

jpdesjar 07-23-08 08:14 AM

i want to get the flat handlebar from soma but i was wondering what its like climbing hills with a flat bar, it will probably be a little more difficult, no? most of my riding is pretty flat so i don't think it will be a problem...

iamtim 07-23-08 08:48 AM

On my roadie I run drops. Wouldn't run anything else, of course. On my fixie, though, I find drops to be highly annoying; they just don't work for the way I ride my fixie. Bullhorns are awesome for the fixie, but I prefer risers for the same reason that someone earlier mentioned: they feel very reminiscent of my BMX days.

Note I do not to barspins.

RichPugh 07-23-08 09:26 AM

I used to ride risers in the 80's when 66mm wheels and lose trucks gave you wheelbite... at least with Indy's which actually turned. If you rode Ventures, they didnt turn as well so you could get away without using risers. I took off my risers in the late 80's, early 90's when flatground tricks became prevalent and wheels got down to 38mm. Now a days, risers are back in effect, at least 1/8" shockpad style risers...

This is a skateboarding forum right?

Cause on my fixed gear, I ride riser bars and they clear for barspins but the front wheel doesnt... FAIL for Barspinz on a Langster Comp!

http://a278.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...17795e173d.jpg

iansmash 07-23-08 09:43 AM

I decided to get them b/c I got into a pretty bad wreck...

when I was at my LBS getting replacement parts and having the bike looked over, i noticed some gold anodized nitto risers and said...i like those...so i bought them


i really want some drops bad...but the risers are super comfortable for riding around town


I rode flats before and had a decent saddle to stem drop, but not uncomfortable for me...I almost feel awkward up in the risers

cobrabyte 07-23-08 10:26 AM

I've been seeing risers lately with an even higher rise that most (somewhere between the regular riser bar, and the bmx bars) and even people putting bmx style gooseneck stems on fixedgear bikes. It just shows the evolution of trick fixed gear riding...it's called trial & error, people are always gonna do wierd stuff with bikes. i see a lot of posts here where people say things like "you wanna do tricks like that, get on a bmx...etc." I'm sure back in the mid-70's a lot of those early bmx guys got crap flung their way for doing un-conventional things w/ their bikes, putting on wierd handlebars, etc. same goes for MTB. Nowadays, there are the people who wait for big companies to come up with innovations, and there's the people who come up with their own. If people didn't tinker, and try new stuff, we'd still be riding penny-farthings.

mangpress 08-11-08 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by cobrabyte (Post 7117385)
If people didn't tinker, and try new stuff, we'd still be riding penny-farthings.

i wish we did :)

JYPC 08-11-08 08:10 AM

Drops are so nice. This disdain for modern entrapment will rain on.

Negative externalities prevail!

iamtim 08-11-08 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by peabodypride (Post 6811659)
I say let people ride however wrapped, oury-d, un-wrapped, nekkid, or whatever else floats their boats. bullhorns, deep track drops, shallow ergo drops, double *****s, butterfly, helix bars, whatever the hell makes you happy. who are we to say what is and isn't practical for their applications? who knows what type of riding they do, if they wear gloves, or anything else about them? maybe they're in the bike shop right now getting tape for their un-wrapped bars. there are much more important things in life than to worry how someone else touches pieces of metal.

+1. QFT. *standing ovation*

(I don't know how I missed this earlier.)

_hollister_ 08-11-08 09:18 AM

+1 as well.

As I got more used to drops I felt faster (commuting), but when I head DT on the weekend, the risers go on. Wow, actually having 2 sets of bars. Not locking myself into a style. Too bad some here can't. Do what ever the hell you want as long as it doesn't defy logic. Even then...


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