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I think the key phrase people were talking about as a phenomena on why fixed bikes will help pull you through the dead spots of the stroke and not loose effeicency is the fact that..
the rear wheel is acting like a free-wheel in an engine of a car. A spinning mass helping keep the engine or in this case the pedal stroke continuous and smooth. With a non fixed bike, all the rotational mass and energy is lost. |
Originally Posted by Metricoclock
(Post 6807127)
I think the key phrase people were talking about as a phenomena on why fixed bikes will help pull you through the dead spots of the stroke and not loose effeicency is the fact that..
the rear wheel is acting like a free-wheel in an engine of a car. A spinning mass helping keep the engine or in this case the pedal stroke continuous and smooth. With a non fixed bike, all the rotational mass and energy is lost. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WMi5TUJDso |
Originally Posted by Metricoclock
(Post 6807127)
I think the key phrase people were talking about as a phenomena on why fixed bikes will help pull you through the dead spots of the stroke and not loose effeicency is the fact that..
the rear wheel is acting like a free-wheel in an engine of a car. A spinning mass helping keep the engine or in this case the pedal stroke continuous and smooth. With a non fixed bike, all the rotational mass and energy is lost. there is no magical loss or gain of energy or efficiency here what a fixed gear does do quite well is remind you instantly if you don't pedal smoothly from the bike's perspective it takes X amount of work to make it go Y miles per hour PERIOD no matter how it is pedaled pushed or towed, it doesn't matter what gear ratio is used or anything else, you have to overcome drivetrain friction, rolling resistance, and aero drag and that's it, being a fixed gear doesn't alter the laws of physics |
i tried my gf's single speed today and i must say...coasting feels absolutely perverse. it's wayy too easy and doesn't feel like i'm riding a bike. I don't like it it's out of control
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riding a geared roadbike, i definitely KNOW im using more efficient energy (putting less stress on myself to do the same amount of work)...
But, when I ride my fixed track bike of similar weight, i feel as/if not less tired than riding a geared roadbike. Both are the same weight roughly so it would seem that the roadbike would tire me less. But, I ride my fixedgear smarter when it comes to pacing myself, keeping my spin up, attacking hills earlier and cleaner than on a geared bike. This more alert riding style is definitely what equalizes my laziness on a geared roadbike. obviously, all things equal (and that is hard to do), the geared bike should be more efficient for daily use. |
Originally Posted by Yoshi
(Post 6803373)
Blah blah blah, I'm more hardcore than roadies, blah blah blah, I climb fast, blah blah blah.
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On long distace open roads, no doubt fixed is tougher. How much is the question. I think 1: 1.5 is too high unless you are talking mountains.
My guess would be 1.2 - 1.3 for rolling to moderate hilly terrain. Break vs. no break;) is another important factor. No brakes on long descents can really kick your ass and wear you down. I would say those are the two biggest factors, terrain and brakes. |
Originally Posted by mihlbach
(Post 6806134)
Note that I was comparing a fixed gear and SS so chainline and derailleur are irrelevant. They are of extremely minor overall significance anyway.
Second of all, a fg does not help you pedal through deadspots unless you are being extremely sloppy. When you pedal a freewheel bike, does the freewheel click everytime your pedal hits 12 o'clock. It shouldn't. The pawls should be engaged the whole time, unless you are deliberately coasting. For a normal pedaling stroke, there is no complete dead spot. If you are pedaling properly (i.e. your legs are spinning the cranks through the full rotation), it makes no difference if you are pedaling a fg or freewheel. If you truly do have a dead spot when you are pedaling uphill (unlikely unless you are seriously lazy), your are loosing momentum and basically making things worse. If thats the case, switching to a freewheel to help you learn to pedal through the dead spot will actually make you climb more efficiently. In any case, when the climbing starts to get real (say over 10% for over a mile) I much prefer a road bike to a fixed-gear. |
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