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Philly, tell me about your city

Old 06-09-08, 03:20 PM
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Philly, tell me about your city

Sorry, it's somewhat off topic but I have an opportunity to move to Philly and work downtown for my company HQ. My wife might transfer to Rutgers Law across the river.

For the Philly people -

(1) How is the cycling in Philly? Safe?, places to ride, city riding...
(2) Where should I live? (Would be working on JFK Blvd downtown and wife will be going to Rutgers.)
(3) Rent range for 1-2bd house/apt based on Question 2? (I checked craigslist but prices are all across the board and I don't know the area at all.)
(4) Will I get shot? (Half joking, this is a huge move for me coming from Portland.)
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Old 06-09-08, 03:45 PM
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thanks for the PM mooseblend.



Also, I'd like input on being carfree in Philly.
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It's where the Fresh Prince was born and raised!
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philly is a small city, and cars are not necessary at all.
a bike is very ideal, but im not sure about how safe it is to be riding brake-less if thats what you do.
narrow one-way streets, bad drivers, etc, but thats for every city
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Youre divorcing Stumptown? Well fine. But if you come back youre gonna get sticks thrown in your spokes where ever you ride!

Though really, I hope it works out if you really wanna go man. Philly seems like one of the very few cities besides PDX that I could really enjoy, even though ive never been to it.

Oh Philly has the highest bike theft rating according to Krypto. So watch your ride!
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1) philly is a fantastic city to use a bike as primary means of travel. small enough that you can get literally anywhere.
2) where you live depends on your price range. if you are working on jfk downtown, you might want to look in the museum district / fairmount district for cheaper rent, as opposed to center city proper.
3) 1 br apartment would run you anywhere from $700-$1200. any more than $1200 will get you luxury, any less than $700 will get you... either a studio, a hovel 1-br, or a bedroom in a house shared with other people.
4) you wont get shot. you also don't want to go certain places in north, west, and south philly. if you are smart, philly is really a very safe city.
5) additional note - if you're smart about locking your bike and never leave it anywhere overnight, theft shouldn't be a problem. lots of people ride nice bikes without a problem
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where on jfk would you be working?
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i went to school at drexel university for a year, and it was enjoyable to say the least. philly life is pretty chill with some bustle , but not as much as nyc obviously. the street are semi safe if u are smart about traveling. obviously don't in a group of 10 girls in the middle of the night walking around lol. food is excellent =)
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Stay in Portland or move to Philly. That is a damned if you do, damned if you don't proposition if I've ever seen one.
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Old 06-09-08, 07:21 PM
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you won't get shot, don't do stupid stuff and you'll be fine. lived here my entire life, been a messenger for 2 years. come to www.phillyfixed.com for more/better info.
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dont go to phillyfixed. you wont get any real info.
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LOL

I would be in the new building on jfk blvd. You know, the really tall one.

What is the racial mix there??
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is it really filthadelphia??
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i went overnight jst a few days ago for the first time.
i saw alot of bikes, fg definitely.
the city was pretty clean i'd say, i was around market street/city hall area. some really nice bikes hanging around love park too! i liked it, reminded me of a baby NYC
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Originally Posted by MIN View Post
LOL

I would be in the new building on jfk blvd. You know, the really tall one.

What is the racial mix there??
the comcast center

philadelphia is really diverse. roughly and assuredly incorrect:

north philadelphia is mainly lower-class blacks and pockets of hispanics from about spring garden (though this line is ever moving northwards, now some might claim girard) well into olney. to the left is fairmount, which borders the art museum area and is largely young, decently-off white people. to the right is northern liberties and fishtown, often seen as up-and-coming neighborhoods.

west philadelphia is home to university city (which is a marketing ploy, lol) and is largely college students, grads, 20-something immediately west of the river. farther out you have penn/drexel kids looking for cheaper rent and pockets of blocks that are really really trendy and affordable. also there be crusty old hippies. from friends in college and my own experience 50th street is generally the line separating whites and blacks, from 50th and out to the surrounding suburbs (yeadon, darby, etc) are mainly blacks.

south philadelphia is arguably the most diverse and interesting. below washington ave you will find all kinds of racial mixings on both sides of broad, everything from (of course) italians to hispanics to jews. many college students and phillyfixed posters also live in south philly because rent is ridiculously cheap and the neighborhood is respectable.

there are a million more subsections and areas but you'll get the hang of it. living in center city would be very very expensive and the commute to the comcast center from even southern south philly is very quick and painless. but what the hell do i know, i don't even live in the city. suburbia is great.

feel free to join and post at phillyblog.com, it is a comprehensive and active forum that thrives on a lot of real estate agents who will help you in neighborhood selection without pushing their services on you.
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Philly's nice enough.
(1) Cycling in Philly is like any major city. If you're comfortable riding around lots of traffic, you'll do fine in "center city." In my opinion, you need a bike in Philly (unless you like the trains/buses/trolleys better). Driving a car anywhere in the city blows.
(2) South Philly is fun, Fishtown is good and cheap, if you want to live near lots of people who wear expensive shoes check out Northern Liberties, if you want lots of trees (and the only hills in Philly, however mild they might be) then live in West Philly. I live in East Kensington, which is borderline "ghetto" but it's still pretty safe. The guys who "work" the corners in my neighborhood are actually pretty friendly and don't cause me any trouble.
(3) You should be able to get a decent apartment for around 600, depending. Maybe a little more as you get closer to center city or into No.Libs.
(4) Unless you are personally acquainted with someone who might want to shoot you, then no. Random shootings are pretty uncommon.

Get your wife some pepper spray just to be cautious.

Come to Philly and ride your bike with us.
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It's where the Fresh Prince was born and raised!
Yeah, I guess that *might* be true. There are some big houses where the doctors, lawyers, and other expensive people live in West Philly. More like mansions, really. "Got in one little fight and my mom got scared... She said 'I'm taking you out of the ritzy private school you've been going to here in the clean, affluent section of this metropolis so that you don't hear any more stories about the bad kids a couple miles away.'"
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Don't know much about Philly but Rutgers-Camden blows.

Brother went there for a semester. Think I heard a rumor last year that you don't have to stop for traffic lights in the really bad areas so you don't get car jacked.
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Don't know much about Philly but Rutgers-Camden blows.

Brother went there for a semester. Think I heard a rumor last year that you don't have to stop for traffic lights in the really bad areas so you don't get car jacked.
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lol double-post.

there's no reason ever to go near Camden unless you want to go to the aquarium or see crappy concerts at the Susquehanna center place.
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lol double-post.

there's no reason ever to go near Camden unless you want to go to the aquarium or see crappy concerts at the Susquehanna center place.
I think his wife might go there. Good school, bad area.
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Well I really appreciate your input here fellas. It helps to get me oriented, even though it's at a pretty high level. I'll have to refer back to this thread when it gets closer to moving time. (August or so...)

thanks guys!
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Well I really appreciate your input here fellas. It helps to get me oriented, even though it's at a pretty high level. I'll have to refer back to this thread when it gets closer to moving time. (August or so...)

thanks guys!
Well, no question Philly is nothing like your current home...but I think you'll appreciate the difference in lifestyle here. Based on the posts so far, listen to Skinnyland.

I like that you mention getting shot at. It does happen, but mostly if you're looking for it. I was involved in a lot of bull**** in the past and so that stuff was around me, but it's easy to avoid.

Do you know anyone living here so far? Maybe you'd want to do a "trial stay" here first and determine where exactly you'd like to live, if you want to live here at all. South Philly is probably the most economical option for you...maybe a 15 minute commute to work, same from West Philly. West Philly is getting more expensive/"safe" all the time, it's the greenest area and that might remind you of home...but not really.
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Oh yeah, Judge's words are good too.

Try and get a sample here before you move here.
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Originally Posted by Jerseysbest View Post
Don't know much about Philly but Rutgers-Camden blows.

Brother went there for a semester. Think I heard a rumor last year that you don't have to stop for traffic lights in the really bad areas so you don't get car jacked.
well, I'm certainly more nervous in Camden than in most parts of Philly, but its not THAT bad; I ride through there reguarly, sometimes at night.

The (tiny) campus is plenty safe, but I would be a little nervous about her getting to/from campus at night.
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