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Thinking of building up a Leader

Old 06-19-08, 07:49 PM
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Thinking of building up a Leader

I have searched and found a lot on another frame, not this paticular one. I am looking to get a new fixed gear and am debating between these: (all thoughts/comments/ideas/suggestions welcome )
1: IRO
2: Leader 720TR here: https://www.leaderbikestore.com/pd_ld720tr.cfm
3: Kilo TT
4: Hour
5: _______________________ What you got for me (good bike around $300-800)

Back to the Leader, anyone have this frame? What are your thoughts on it? What fork would you reccomend for it? Thanks for all the help (in advance) appreciate it.
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Old 06-19-08, 07:53 PM
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I'd say 1 or 3.

I don't like the leaders graphics.. or brake cable things on the top tube. (forgot what they are called)

5. would be a surly

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Old 06-19-08, 07:57 PM
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i think the leader is ugly (ugly dropouts, ugly downtube, really ugly welds, and cable guides), but to each is own i guess. if it were me, though, i'd definitely go with an iro or steamroller.
 
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Yeah i really like the IRO Angus. Its a slick bike. Anyone have one? I'd love to hear how you like it. I would consider the Mark V but it has the cable stops on it which annoys me. I really am leaning towards the IRO considering it'd probably cost just as much if not more to build a Leader and it still wont be as good as the IRO, plus i like supporting smaller companies. Thanks comments still welcome
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Old 06-19-08, 08:31 PM
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cable guides/stops! thats what it was.. damn i hate those on track bikes
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Old 06-19-08, 08:44 PM
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no hate for the leader, I don't know about that model specifically but they can look really hot.




There has been a black gloss powdercoat one posted that was teh sex.
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Old 06-19-08, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chrism32205 View Post
cable guides/stops! thats what it was.. damn i hate those on track bikes
except the leader is not a track bike, it is specifically marketed as a "fixed gear" bike with drilling for brakes, cable guides, geometry, etc.
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Old 06-19-08, 09:53 PM
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Yeah i dont know but the cable stops on a fixed gear just annoy me. If IRO made the Mark V with no stops i'd be all over it. You're right, leaders can look good, i like the white paint they have too, it looks really clean.
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2009 735tr, check out the coffee bike thread as to why.
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Old 06-19-08, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by peabodypride View Post
except the leader is not a track bike, it is specifically marketed as a "fixed gear" bike with drilling for brakes, cable guides, geometry, etc.
Only the 720TR... Not the 735TR... (as the one pictured above). There are no cable stays/stops, it is drilled for a rear brake but they do offer a carbon track fork with no brake provision. The only thing I've heard about the Leader bikes, which would sway me away from it, is how fragile the tubing seems... like they use very thin gauge aluminum tubing which you can dent with your thumb if you press hard on it... and it "tings" badly when you tap on it. Thats all... people just dont like the construction. The 735TR looks the business but I'm skeptical of the construction. I already own an aluminum track bike that I like. Unless its a Pista Concept, I think the next bike I build will be steel.
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Originally Posted by RichPugh View Post
Only the 720TR... Not the 735TR... (as the one pictured above). There are no cable stays/stops, it is drilled for a rear brake but they do offer a carbon track fork with no brake provision. The only thing I've heard about the Leader bikes, which would sway me away from it, is how fragile the tubing seems... like they use very thin gauge aluminum tubing which you can dent with your thumb if you press hard on it... and it "tings" badly when you tap on it. Thats all... people just dont like the construction. The 735TR looks the business but I'm skeptical of the construction. I already own an aluminum track bike that I like. Unless its a Pista Concept, I think the next bike I build will be steel.
Good call man, i have a friend majoring in engineering and he knows a lot about metals and such, he said the 6 series metal (Leader bikes) is supposed to be light and thin, where as the 7 series (ie: 7005) is the "work horse" of aluminums as it is much stronger. I think i've made my decision to get an IRO or get a Kilo if they get them in soon enough. Thanks for all the help guys.
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Old 06-19-08, 10:56 PM
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If I'd get a new bike, I would go with that leader.
That downtube looks vicious. I think it looks better than the other typpies (typical)
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Old 06-20-08, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by peabodypride View Post
but they can look really hot.
What, beer goggles?
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u can use that down tube as a gun rack.
 
Old 06-20-08, 10:47 PM
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I don't think im going with the Leader anymore. Pretty sure i'll buy a Kilo and maybe get an IRO as well.
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Originally Posted by onespeed89 View Post
Good call man, i have a friend majoring in engineering and he knows a lot about metals and such, he said the 6 series metal (Leader bikes) is supposed to be light and thin, where as the 7 series (ie: 7005) is the "work horse" of aluminums as it is much stronger. I think i've made my decision to get an IRO or get a Kilo if they get them in soon enough. Thanks for all the help guys.
I think the 735tr leader is made from U6 UAL Aluminum; supposedly 25% stronger than 6061 T6 and that's got a tensile strength of 45000 psi so it's got like ~55000 psi. So based on that the leader is on par with the Concept, materials wise at least. I don't know about the modulus of the materials however, but if the U6 fatigue strength and tensile strength combined with the HUGE downtube, you've probably got a pretty stiff bike with the 735. Just my $.02.

I'd go with the iro or kilo tt if you're getting an everyday beater/workhorse, the leader if you're trying to make a light quick bike.

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Oops you're talking about the 720tr, they're made from 6061 t6 right? That's pretty much on par with the concept 7005 I think, give or take 4000 psi of tensile strength.
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Whenever I see a leader I think of cars on cinderblocks in pacoima. it looks like crap. id take a huffy stripped and painted over a leader.

so... stop thinking of building up a leader. stop that nonsense. now. please.
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What, beer goggles?

no, he is just a ******.
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Originally Posted by onespeed89 View Post
Yeah i really like the IRO Angus. Its a slick bike. Anyone have one? I'd love to hear how you like it. I would consider the Mark V but it has the cable stops on it which annoys me. I really am leaning towards the IRO considering it'd probably cost just as much if not more to build a Leader and it still wont be as good as the IRO, plus i like supporting smaller companies. Thanks comments still welcome
my mark v pro doesn't have cable stops :x
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Old 06-21-08, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Pennywize View Post
my mark v pro doesn't have cable stops :x
Did you grind them off? Because i know the mark v comes with them on it.
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Originally Posted by onespeed89 View Post
Did you grind them off? Because i know the mark v comes with them on it.
(nope i didnt grind them off)
i just checked the iro website.. it appears the mark v's come with cable stops. I have the mark v pro.. no braze ons or cable stops. it's weird they don't seem to sell the pros anymore.
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Originally Posted by na975 View Post
u can use that down tube as a gun rack.
"What am I gonna do with a gun rack?"
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"What am I gonna do with a gun rack?"
I don't own A gun, let alone many guns, which would neccesitate an entire rack.
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Originally Posted by RichPugh View Post
... like they use very thin gauge aluminum tubing which you can dent with your thumb if you press hard on it...
This I would like to see.
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Originally Posted by RichPugh View Post
The only thing I've heard about the Leader bikes, which would sway me away from it, is how fragile the tubing seems... like they use very thin gauge aluminum tubing which you can dent with your thumb if you press hard on it...
Who told you that? That's bull****.

Originally Posted by RichPugh View Post
Thats all... people just dont like the construction. The 735TR looks the business but I'm skeptical of the construction. I already own an aluminum track bike that I like. Unless its a Pista Concept, I think the next bike I build will be steel.
The 735 and the Concept are both aluminum. While many say the ride of the Concept is very nice and plush for aluminum, both frames are subject to denting easier than steel ones. It's not an issue of construction. They're both great quality.

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