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Atlanta Police vs. Critical Mass

Old 06-30-08, 08:44 AM
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Atlanta Police vs. Critical Mass

They actually followed the ride through town and were ticketing anyone who ran a red light.

https://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-40338

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Old 06-30-08, 08:50 AM
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Thats awesome.
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Old 06-30-08, 08:52 AM
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That is not awesome.
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Old 06-30-08, 09:04 AM
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Awesome, glad this is being done. More police forces should act like this. When you're trying to get motorists to acknowledge you on the road, disobeying the laws goes against everything you're trying to do. CM started off as a good idea now it's a joke which is giving cyclists a terrible name.
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Old 06-30-08, 09:16 AM
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+1. Cyclists should follow the rules of the road. Doesn't matter if it's one lone cyclists or a thousand. Seems like millions of cars can drive around the city and generally follow the rules but as soon as a group ride starts it's basically a bike parade, just blowing through any and all stop lights/signs. Lame.
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Old 06-30-08, 09:22 AM
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critical mass is such a joke.
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2004 called... https://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....bike.protest/

all downhill from there
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what do you guys propose to an alternative. I am trying to figure out the best way to get our point across. Would you say that critical mass rides are acceptable if they are courteous to drivers as well. For example, only taking one lane, obeying stop signs/Lights and traffic laws
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Every day is car day.

Here we have CM once a month and it's an opportunity to let motorists know we exist. That includes going through some red lights. I hope the last sentence did not make some people cry here.
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I agree. I used to run a critical mass years ago, and all it did was piss off people trying to go home from work at 5:30.

It didn't really accomplish anything other than letting self-righteous cyclist vent.

They see you. They know you're there. So what? I see people not eating meat all the time, and even understand the argument behind it, but I'm not going to do it until I decide I want too.

People don't pick up bikes because crust punks block their lane, they pick them up because they decide they want to get in shape, or just love cycling. I'd say 1 commuter going to work and talking to coworkers does more than a year of critical masses.

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Old 06-30-08, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jenkinsal2 View Post
what do you guys propose to an alternative. I am trying to figure out the best way to get our point across. Would you say that critical mass rides are acceptable if they are courteous to drivers as well. For example, only taking one lane, obeying stop signs/Lights and traffic laws
Since CM is actually detrimental to bike advocacy nothing is a better alternative than it.
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Regardless of your stance on CM, calling this a "bike gang" as CNN has chosen to do really cracks me up.
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for me, cm offers people who would never be comfortable riding in traffic the confidence to take the lane and be confident (which leads to them being a a safer cyclist all-around). I hate the ultra-political kids who show up and try to channel it into something else. The fact of the matter is it's safer for everyone if the ride goes unbroken, because cars will try to pull up into the cyclists if no one is RIGHT in front of them. I think the few cities where the cops ride and block traffic for the ride is more productive than ticketing, although that then raises the some questions with the formerly empowering nature of it.
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Originally Posted by andrewssohip View Post
for me, cm offers people who would never be comfortable riding in traffic the confidence to take the lane and be confident (which leads to them being a a safer cyclist all-around).
I see no reason to accept this as fact.
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Old 06-30-08, 10:36 AM
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I see no reason to accept this as fact.
yeah, cm does not ride in traffic it blocks it.
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Originally Posted by SuperVillain View Post
They actually followed the ride through town and were ticketing anyone who ran a red light.

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Good. I hope the tickets are expensive and teach the lawless ones a lesson. Any cyclist running a red light or stop light should be ticketed, as should any motorist doing the same.
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Old 06-30-08, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by adversity View Post
Every day is car day.

Here we have CM once a month and it's an opportunity to let motorists know we exist. That includes going through some red lights. I hope the last sentence did not make some people cry here.
Running some red lights lets motorists know that you are idiotic law breakers.

Let motorists know you exist by riding your bike.
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Old 06-30-08, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by maddyfish View Post
Good. I hope the tickets are expensive and teach the lawless ones a lesson. Any cyclist running a red light or stop light should be ticketed, as should any motorist doing the same.
I can't imagine why anyone riding a bike would want to run a red light. It's suicide. I don't condone it in a car but at least you're protected by a steal cage. On a bike you're much more vulnerable. You get hit by a car you're pretty much dead. Now imagine a mass of bike riders running red lights. Imaging how many people can get killed by one car plowing into them. Morons.
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Originally Posted by maddyfish View Post
Good. I hope the tickets are expensive and teach the lawless ones a lesson. Any cyclist running a red light or stop light should be ticketed, as should any motorist doing the same.
These tickets start off being big ($180+) then get knocked down to ~$30 after fighting it. Really, handing out tickets to cyclists is ****ing waste of resources (both police and court) unless someone is injured.
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Originally Posted by drainyoo View Post
I can't imagine why anyone riding a bike would want to run a red light. It's suicide. I don't condone it in a car but at least you're protected by a steal cage. On a bike you're much more vulnerable. You get hit by a car you're pretty much dead. Now imagine a mass of bike riders running red lights. Imaging how many people can get killed by one car plowing into them. Morons.

you obviously have no idea what critical mass is and how it "works"
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Originally Posted by adversity View Post
Every day is car day.

Here we have CM once a month and it's an opportunity to let motorists know we exist. That includes going through some red lights. I hope the last sentence did not make some people cry here.
I hope you feel the same way when cars run red lights.

BTW, every day is bike day for me. The car gets rarely used in my household.
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Originally Posted by drainyoo View Post
I can't imagine why anyone riding a bike would want to run a red light. It's suicide. I don't condone it in a car but at least you're protected by a steal cage. On a bike you're much more vulnerable. You get hit by a car you're pretty much dead. Now imagine a mass of bike riders running red lights. Imaging how many people can get killed by one car plowing into them. Morons.
Using that logic, why would anybody jaywalk? You are in NYC, right? Not defending CM by any means, but your argument isn't very well thought out.
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Originally Posted by edw View Post
you obviously have no idea what critical mass is and how it "works"
Not true. All it takes is one person not paying attention to "accidentally" run a light or a stopsign.
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Originally Posted by drainyoo View Post
I can't imagine why anyone riding a bike would want to run a red light. It's suicide. I don't condone it in a car but at least you're protected by a steal cage. On a bike you're much more vulnerable. You get hit by a car you're pretty much dead. Now imagine a mass of bike riders running red lights. Imaging how many people can get killed by one car plowing into them. Morons.
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Old 06-30-08, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by edw View Post
you obviously have no idea what critical mass is and how it "works"
I don't see how that has anything to do with my comment. Article states that riders were blowing red lights. I don't why anyone on a bike would want to ride through a red light, let a lone a mass of riders.
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