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I Love My Windsor Hour!

Old 09-04-10, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
Everything should be interchangeable, including the BB. The only possiblity that I can think of is the seatpost, which is 27.2mm on the Windsor, but that is the most common size so it should fit most frames. I'm assuming your new frame will include a new headset.

headset probably. Not an issue to buy a new seat post/ probably get one for free from the roadies.

possibly might just buy that cheap-o VISP frame from ebay. https://cgi.ebay.com/fixie-track-fixe...item414f35224e
The visp uses a 27.2 seat post so that would swap over. Says to use a 106-108 BB so that is easy enough to buy.

main thing is, I ride 20 miles almost every day. My windsor has done work for the past 2 years and run through plenty of races and I have replaced the chainring, cog, chain, bars, seat and gone clipless. Everything works fine for me just looking for a new frame to change up my ride. No need to blast $2000 on a crazy build when my parts work just fine for me.



and to add, I see they have a second listing for an unmarked VISP https://cgi.ebay.com/track-fixed-gear...61092369255697

which comes with headset, seat clamp, seat post and spacers. (maybe best option for me?)

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Originally Posted by Punished
possibly might just buy that cheap-o VISP frame from ebay. https://cgi.ebay.com/fixie-track-fixe...item414f35224e
The visp uses a 27.2 seat post so that would swap over. Says to use a 106-108 BB so that is easy enough to buy.

and to add, I see they have a second listing for an unmarked VISP which comes with headset, seat clamp, seat post and spacers. (maybe best option for me?)
Warning! I have a VISP TRX790, and the required seatpost turned out to be 27.4mm, which was a hard size to find. A 27.2mm seatpost was too loose, and kept slipping down no matter how hard I tightened the seatpost clamp bolt.

I don't know how they can recommend a specific BB spindle size, since they don't know what cranks you'll be using. For example, I used Sugino RD2 cranks, which require a 103mm BB. Again, your Windsor BB should work with your Windsor cranks (probably Lasco).
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
Warning! I have a VISP TRX790, and the required seatpost turned out to be 27.4mm, which was a hard size to find. A 27.2mm seatpost was too loose, and kept slipping down no matter how hard I tightened the seatpost clamp bolt.

I don't know how they can recommend a specific BB spindle size, since they don't know what cranks you'll be using. For example, I used Sugino RD2 cranks, which require a 103mm BB. Again, your Windsor BB should work with your Windsor cranks (probably Lasco).
Seat post could have been shimmed I guess...
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
Warning! I have a VISP TRX790, and the required seatpost turned out to be 27.4mm, which was a hard size to find. A 27.2mm seatpost was too loose, and kept slipping down no matter how hard I tightened the seatpost clamp bolt.

I don't know how they can recommend a specific BB spindle size, since they don't know what cranks you'll be using. For example, I used Sugino RD2 cranks, which require a 103mm BB. Again, your Windsor BB should work with your Windsor cranks (probably Lasco).


well that is definitely good to know. I guess I will just do the unmarked VISP frame and shim my seat post. Cheap enough and I can buy some new bars. Or the one set they are offering comes with a seat post, so I wonder if that is the proper 27.4mm or if it needs a shim as well. Meh, I guess I will find out soon enough.
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Kalloy makes 27.4 seatpost.

https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...8&category=758
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Originally Posted by Vixtor

awesome, thanks for the link. now to decide if I want the 52 or 50 unmarked visp frame. I ride a 52 windsor but the standover height is just barely there.
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Any one Have a 650cc fork on the hour?
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Originally Posted by Pooptet
Can Clockworks fit 700x28's?
Depends. My rear triangle cant fit a 29. But someone at my school fitted up to 29 with minimal clearance.

But maybe my tire is wider.
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Be careful. I bought a similar bike for the same price and the spindle CRACKED. That **** will **** you up. Any online bike comes with really cheap parts and frame, so at least make sure EVERYTHING is nice and tight.
I'm telling you from experience.
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Originally Posted by evilcryalotmore
Any one Have a 650cc fork on the hour?
i have a cf 650 fork that's gonna go with a 26" spin wheel but i have yet to cut it. should look like this though -

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Originally Posted by araw at bituin
i have a cf 650 fork that's gonna go with a 26" spin wheel but i have yet to cut it. should look like this though -

How wide is that tire and how much was the fork? cut it i wanna see i might do the same.
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whoa, sizing question here. I have ridden a 57cm OLD schwinn varsity and I am 5'11ish. I have a shorter than average torso so should I go with a 54cm to get the shorter TT and just a lot of seatpost or the 56 and a short stem?
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61 cm windsor the hour pedal srike

Hey,
Does anyone here own a 61 cm Windsor the Hour? Can you please tell me the bottom bracket height? The geometry chart for the Hour ( https://windsorbicycles.com/track.htm )
does not list bb height or drop, but I calculated based on the chart that the 61 cm size has bb height of 27 cm, which is 1.5 cm less than
on the other sizes. Can you confirm this? Will 1.5 cm less of bb height make any difference as far as pedal strike?
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Originally Posted by nikiton
Hey,
Does anyone here own a 61 cm Windsor the Hour? Can you please tell me the bottom bracket height? The geometry chart for the Hour ( https://windsorbicycles.com/track.htm )
does not list bb height or drop, but I calculated based on the chart that the 61 cm size has bb height of 27 cm, which is 1.5 cm less than
on the other sizes. Can you confirm this? Will 1.5 cm less of bb height make any difference as far as pedal strike?
How did you calculate this?
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bb height = (stand over height ) - ( radius of the top tube ) - (seat tube c-c) * sin(seat tube angle)

Here sin is the sine function. Calculator must be in degree mode, not radians, to get the correct value of sine.
I used 1.5 cm for the radius of the top tube but it doesn't have any bearing on the fact that size 61 comes out with a lower bb.

Does this agree with the actual bike measurements?
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Theoretically, your formula is correct. However, you can take those standover values with a grain of salt. Fact is, BB drop is almost always the same for a given frame design over the entire range of frame sizes. Look at any other frame, such as the Kilo TT, and you will see this to be the case. The real issue is that the crank arm length is longer for larger frames, which reduces cornering clearance accordingly. Also affecting cornering clearance is tire size (wider tires will raise the BB) and pedal width (track pedals are narrower than road pedals for this reason). My guess is that the Windsor Hour is very similar to the Moto Track, which shows a BB drop of 58mm and a BB height of 292mm across the range of frame sizes.
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Thanks for the reply. So stand over values are approximate. Maybe that's why they are the only ones given in inches.
Can anyone tell me please the actual bb drop on Windsor the Hour?
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windsor the hour 61 cm geometry

I think I see a problem with the online geometry data for windsor the hour 61cm.

The table https://windsorbicycles.com/track.htm says that for seat tube C-T =61 cm, seat tube C-C = 59 cm -- which means to the top of the tube it is only 2 cm more than to the center of the top tube. There is no way it could be true, because if you take into account the radius of the top tube, it would mean that the top of the seat tube sticks out only by .5 cm from the top tube. In fact for all the other sizes the corresponding difference is 3cm. These guys ****ed the geo table pretty good. Any opinions?
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Originally Posted by evilcryalotmore



What's that hanging from the saddle?
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Originally Posted by tramnineteen
What's that hanging from the saddle?
Read this >>> https://www.velocult.com/index.php/bl...n_your_saddle/
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I've had a Windsor Hour for a couple years, looking to spend about $150 or so on upgrades.

Upgrades done:
- Velocity Deep V's, tires
- 17t cog + lockring
- Brooks B17 saddle
- All city deluxe double toe strap/GR9 pedals/cages
- riser bars with front brake

Considering:
- Thomson Elite seat post
- new stem (looking for suggestions)
- Tange Bottom Bracket
- new headset (looking for suggestions)

What upgrades are more essential than others?

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I would say tires are among the biggest upgrades on a bike.
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Consider getting a new fork maybe.

Im trying to look for a shorter fork a more high quality one.

Also im looking toward a 650cc wheel too.
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Can you guys walk your hour by holding just onto just the seat? Every time I try it the front wheel flops over to one side after a couple steps. Is my headset loose or is it the geometry?
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