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colintdesign 08-09-08 01:43 PM

That rear wheel looks like it's touching the seat tube, but then I noticed they have the wheel all the way forward in the dropouts with a taught chain—bad idea and leaves no room for adjustment. The dropouts look pretty long, so you should be able to pull back enough to fit fenders or wider tires. Frame looks real nice.

andre nickatina 08-10-08 11:56 AM

Chain doesn't look that tight, but it's hard to tell from a non-driveside photo. I have my wheel about that close to the seat tube on my KHS track right now for street ratio (53x19) so that I can flip it around and run as low as a 53x15 for track training (read: not racing), I could probably even do a 53x14 but that would be one monster ratio. Just have to push the axle a few mm back to derail the chain, not too hard once you get the hang of it.

If I could figure out how to take a damn picture with my laptop webcam I'd post it... meh.

alienbikes 08-11-08 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by andre nickatina (Post 7215421)
Oh yeah - I'm fairly positive that Alien = Kazane. If you look at the pics of the two side by side, they are almost the same - "Super End" style fork dropouts, the blunted end of the seat stay where it meets top of seat tube, and the distinct rear track ends. Also, same tubing.

The lugs are from Long-Shen. For example the fork crown is available from many places like:

http://www.framebuilding.com/NEWPART...k%20Crowns.htm

The track ends:

http://www.framebuilding.com/Frame%20Ends%203.htm

So similarities there do not mean the frames are the same. As others have noted, the lugs are different, and the geometry. In particular the fork rake is quite different, making for quite different handling.

I have no idea where the Kazane is made, but I do know they are not the same frames. Aliens are made to my spec, and reflect my ideas of how a track frame should be, and the Kazane is made to the specs of the good folks at Keirin Culture. Variation is the spice of life!

Joseph (Alien)

andre nickatina 08-11-08 01:37 PM

Thanks for clearing that up Joseph, but we kind of already figured that out from looking more closely... either way, seems like there'd be a good chance that they're both made in the same factory atleast. Definite possibility.

By the way I'm stoked to get an Alien when I eventually have a job/the money.


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