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No matter what you are going to lift a little even its a few cm's. If you look at all the videos posted in this thread you can see a slight lift from the seat, even the SF video. I ride 46/16 and when I started ridding fixed I was "seat skidding" the second day of riding. just came kind of natural and easy for me.
BUT, I meantioned before when I was a kid in the late 70's I had bikes that were fixed wheel and to stop you had to skid using back pressure. Call it muscle memory I guess. |
I like nerdbot5000's explanation of how he skids:
Originally Posted by nerdbot5000
1. Pedal a bit, and then ever now and then go limp and let the pedals push your legs around
2. Do the same thing, but this time, as the pedal come backwards and up, let it push your body off the saddle. Just relax and stiffen your back leg a bit to do this. 3. Do the same thing but try to completely straighten your back leg as the pedal comes backwards and up, and let it push your body off the saddle 4. Do the same thing as #3, but when the pedals start to approach the point where the cranks are parallel to the ground, resist with your front foot by pulling. You should definitely feel a point where there is a great resistance to pedaling, and that should be when the cranks and parallel with the ground. ===== A while back during a prolonged medical treatment I geared WAY down just because I didn't otherwise have the strength or energy to ride. Sixty gear inches. Anyway, I really learned to spin, and I found myself inadvertently skidding while back pedalling. It would happen when I pulled up with the front foot. If 60 gear inches seems low, on my severe weather Ice Bike I ride with 50 gear inches; and, yes, the world goes by rather slowly. At 50 gear inches I have to consciously avoid skidding because skidding tears the studs out of my tires. |
Originally Posted by kogkrusher
(Post 7026828)
For me it's more of a timing issue. The more you think about it the more you will understand when I say just lock your knees. You can also lean to the side to help you learn.
Full lean (nuts on stem) skids are the stupidest looking thing on earth. Skid up right or go home. Actually I don't care, what ever you do, as long as (it's legal) you are on a bike it's alright by me. I only do short upright skids for stopping, not the leaned forward trick skids. But, from time to time i like to lean forward and get a long skid going for fun, knowing that its going to eat up my tires. |
get toshi straps and cages.
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go to the nearest golf course at night after they turn off the sprinklers and start at the top of the highest hill they have and go as fast as you can and then skid for days.
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Originally Posted by awristawful
(Post 7033093)
P.S. isolating the muscles to lock in the seated skid has got the front of my upper thighs sore
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Honestly I think these guys are better at skidding then most of the mash crew..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDU-V...eature=related |
Add some cars and we'll see how they do.
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wow this thread is so useful... Im going to try out all the pointers 2m.. hopefully i can get it down.. I know how to skip stop and nuts to stem skid but i just cant ever seat skid..
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Originally Posted by iansmash
(Post 7026839)
I don't know how anybody could skid while completely seated...Here's my theory on how it might be done though.
1. Be like...105 lbs 2. Have a crazy short gear ratio 3. Have superman legs Then MAYBE it could happen I suppose. But then again, I don't really have any of these things...I'm 200lbs w/ 48/17 gears and barely average leg strength I do it all the time. 1) I'm 250 lbs 2) 51/19 = 70.5 gear inches 3) Got super human legs. It's hard to do when I'm out of "riding fixed gear" shape. 4) Clipless (but I can do it in toe clips, too) Also... I can do it ambi (on both sides) |
Super Easy, you can do it, i ride a 46/16 and can do it easily.
With your dominant leg push down hard on the pedal as you pull up on the opposite pedal. |
Hey,
I am doing 46/17 and I can skid, but I am having trouble skidding like the masters doing fish-tailing left and right. So skidding downhill is slightly unpractical. Would be better to go 46/19? T |
i learned by asking about it on bikeforums....
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1fluffhead and nerdbot5000's explanation of how they skid just helped me pull my first one! Cheers lads! Been trying for a little while and just couldn't get them.. I ain't lookin for Hipster points, but I needed to know, had a few close calls recently, can't find a brake lever to fit my drops (poor excuse I know) but now I don't need one! :P
Was on fresh Gatorskinz, 80" and on smooth pavement (my patio). Rolled my back wheel on the damp lawn and helped me get the first one, but got easier after that one! |
It's easiest for me to raise my butt a few inches from the saddle and skid.
Double straps + nice pedals & cages helped A LOT! |
Originally Posted by foofmaster
(Post 8495139)
It's easiest for me to raise my butt a few inches from the saddle and skid.
Double straps + nice pedals & cages helped A LOT! |
After reading this thread yesterday I went out and tried it. I couldn't really do it without lifting up a bit on normal roads but on a bike path that had a little loose gravel to it I could do it just fine.
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Originally Posted by Tomo_Ishi
(Post 8495516)
I do that. But it ain't seated skid, right? Or everyone rifts their bottoms few inches?
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Originally Posted by iansmash
(Post 7026839)
I don't know how anybody could skid while completely seated...Here's my theory on how it might be done though.
1. Be like...105 lbs 2. Have a crazy short gear ratio 3. Have superman legs Then MAYBE it could happen I suppose. But then again, I don't really have any of these things...I'm 200lbs w/ 48/17 gears and barely average leg strength |
Put some momentum into it and commit.
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Clipless will make seated skids seem like nothing, and everything else will become nothing.
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so who else thinks locking up your knees and then putting hundreds of pounds of pressure on them is a bad idea?
anyone? |
Be aware that seated skids can be pulled off if you have the strength and/ or low gearing but your are leaving more weight on the back wich will ruin your tire a lot faster than doing an out of seat skid.
Or if you have a front brake slam that thing on and lock your wheel, while seated. You can let off the brake off and keep the skid going pretty easily. The front front brake unweights the back allowing you to do this |
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