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Any experience with JensonUSA's bike build quality?

Old 07-14-08, 07:24 PM
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Any experience with JensonUSA's bike build quality?

As the title says, how is the quality of JensonUSA's bike builds(especially the wheels)?
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Old 07-14-08, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by yellotrace View Post
As the title says, how is the quality of JensonUSA's bike builds(especially the wheels)?
Speculation is irrelevant. If I had to buy a bike from a shop that I didn't build, the first thing i'd do is re-assemble the entire bike from scratch.

Unless jensonusa does something most shops don't, the build will be basically the quickest assembly that the bike can be marginally safely ridden out of the store with. In the case of places like Walmart, you can omit the safely part.
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If I had to buy a bike from a shop that I [myself] didn't build, the first thing i'd do is re-assemble the entire bike from scratch.
There is no greater truth in the bicycle world.
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Old 07-14-08, 07:43 PM
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i ordered my surly lht off there with no problems. just gave it the once over when i got it, made sure everything was nice and tight. wheels were true (enough).

i had a custom handblebar (nitto north road) installed and they called me to see exactly how i wanted the brakes positioned. they were easy to work with; seemed friendly.

about 1100 miles later, no issues to report.

YMMV.

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Old 07-14-08, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by operator View Post
Speculation is irrelevant. If I had to buy a bike from a shop that I didn't build, the first thing i'd do is re-assemble the entire bike from scratch.

Unless jensonusa does something most shops don't, the build will be basically the quickest assembly that the bike can be marginally safely ridden out of the store with. In the case of places like Walmart, you can omit the safely part.
Would you trust bike build from a LBS then?
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Speculation is irrelevant. If I had to buy a bike from a shop that I didn't build, the first thing i'd do is re-assemble the entire bike from scratch.
The hyperbole is strong with this one.

Bikes aren't particularly complicated, most anyone can put one together properly, especially if they work in a bike shop (you'd hope they'd get some sort of basic training). Besides, with most bearings being cartridge bearings these days, there isn't all that much that needs special attention on a bike. Make sure the controls are properly torqued and the cables are properly tightened and you're good to go. Any fool can make sure a bike is properly assembled without disassembling everything.

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Old 07-15-08, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by allencb View Post
The hyperbole is strong with this one.

Bikes aren't particularly complicated, most anyone can put one together properly, especially if they work in a bike shop (you'd hope they'd get some sort of basic training). Besides, with most bearings being cartridge bearings these days, there isn't all that much that needs special attention on a bike. Make sure the controls are properly torqued and the cables are properly tightened and you're good to go. Any fool can make sure a bike is properly assembled without disassembling everything.

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You're an idiot.
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Really? Tell me where I'm wrong, where 25 years of experience with bikes and biking and building my own bikes (bikes that roll a couple thousand miles a year) is wrong.

If you need to rebuild a bike you bought from your LBS, you need to find another LBS. It's been a decade since I bought my last bike from an LBS, but I felt no need to rebuild it. I adjusted the brake and deraileurs after a few weeks and that was it.

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Originally Posted by allencb View Post
Really? Tell me where I'm wrong, where 25 years of experience with bikes and biking and building my own bikes (bikes that roll a couple thousand miles a year) is wrong.

If you need to rebuild a bike you bought from your LBS, you need to find another LBS. It's been a decade since I bought my last bike from an LBS, but I felt no need to rebuild it. I adjusted the brake and deraileurs after a few weeks and that was it.

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Ok, so you might not be an idiot, but I think you over estimate the skill level of 90% of the posters in this forum. FWIW, I've found too much variation in the mechanic quality of the LBS' in Toronto. So much, so that I now do most of my own work. I still don't press headsets or perform frame mods, but I will learn to build my own wheels.

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I think it is a compromise between your two positions and a matter of finding the right mechanic. You need to know a mechanic who you trust enough to not be pulling out the BB on your new build to make sure it's greased, but still be weary. People do rush stuff, people make mistakes, people don't know your personal preferences in setup. It's still a good idea to check a new build before riding.
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Originally Posted by kergin View Post
Ok, so you might not be an idiot, but I think you over estimate the skill level of 90% of the posters in this forum. FWIW, I've found too much variation in the mechanic quality of the LBS' in Toronto. So much, so that I now o most of my own work. I still don't press headsets or perform frame mods, but I will learn to build my own wheels.
So can you recommend me a LBS in Toronto?
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Originally Posted by allencb View Post
The hyperbole is strong with this one.

Bikes aren't particularly complicated, most anyone can put one together properly, especially if they work in a bike shop (you'd hope they'd get some sort of basic training). Besides, with most bearings being cartridge bearings these days, there isn't all that much that needs special attention on a bike. Make sure the controls are properly torqued and the cables are properly tightened and you're good to go. Any fool can make sure a bike is properly assembled without disassembling everything.

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You must either

a) work in a high end shop that doesn't deal with bikes < $1000
b) your standard of "build" is **** quality
c) full of ****
d) be such a ****ty mechanic that your definition of good is everyone elses definition of poor

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Originally Posted by yellotrace View Post
So can you recommend me a LBS in Toronto?
Cycle Solutions, Urbane, Sweet Pete's, and LaBicicletta.
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Originally Posted by operator View Post
You must either

a) work in a high end shop that doesn't deal with bikes < $1000
b) your standard of "build" is **** quality
c) full of ****
d) be such a ****ty mechanic that your definition of good is everyone elses definition of poor
Nope, never worked in a shop ever.

Bikes aren't terribly complex machines, especially SS/FG bikes. My comment stands, if you have to rebuild a NEW bike purchased at a decent shop (not a dept store or dumpster), then that shop sucks and you should take your business elsewhere. I haven't personally purchased a bike from a shop in over a decade, so maybe the quality of bike shop mechanics has declined. I doubt it though or a lot of the folks I ride with weekly would be hold up our rides to fix their crappy bike shop builds.

It might be time for you to find a new shop, yours is obviously defective.

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Originally Posted by allencb View Post
Nope, never worked in a shop ever.
You can stop talking then k thx.
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Originally Posted by operator View Post
You can stop talking then k thx.
Yeah, because shop experience is required to know how a bike should be assembled. It's so very complex.

Anyway, why don't you tell me in painful detail why a shop built bike must be torn down and rebuilt. Be specific. What wasn't done that should have been done, what was done that should have been done differently, etc.

If you have to go through that effort, then you must have concrete reasons why.

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