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Travis Hugh Culley
Hey, I know we have discussed The Immortal Class before on the board, but I just finished reading it last night. Is it just me or did you guys notice that THC can write some of the most hauntingly beautiful descriptions of riding fast and then, on the same page, shift gears into the most pedestrian of political assertions.
It seems to me that the 200 plus his pages of conceit have ruined a really great 100-page book. Just wondering if anyone else got the same impression. Critical Mass true believers level your largest batteries at me. |
THC (Hmmm) is presently a bathroom book. I don't get a lot of time to just sit down and read, and his book is written in such a way that you can read it in the bathroom, and not miss anything.
I agree that he can write some great prose and then take a nose dive into something else, and the mood that was being set is trashed. I think that has more to do with editing than it does THC's abilities as a writer. |
Heel of the immortal...
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I read the book at semi-autobiographical fiction. Knowing going in that he was probably going to steal some good material to make his own 'experience' more vivid. Knowing that I enjoyed it. It was a little fragmented between messengering and political activism, but in truth, most normal people really don't want to sit down and read a book about bike activism. If you intertwine it with a bike messenger story that doesn't quite have the material to stand on it's own, then the message gets out and people read the book.
I don't take the critisism of literature very seriously. If 20 pages into a book I want to keep reading it, and at the end I'm glad I read it then it's good. To me anyway. |
Originally Posted by superchivo
Hey, I know we have discussed The Immortal Class before on the board, but I just finished reading it last night. Is it just me or did you guys notice that THC can write some of the most hauntingly beautiful descriptions of riding fast and then, on the same page, shift gears into the most pedestrian of political assertions.
It seems to me that the 200 plus his pages of conceit have ruined a really great 100-page book. Just wondering if anyone else got the same impression. Critical Mass true believers level your largest batteries at me. I agree with you about 100%. Great stories on the ride, political commentary is on a level the same with stuff posted on this forum. I should have bought it used. |
Ha Ha Ha I get it. Travis Hugh Culley...THC! So that's what the kids are calling it. First Pot, Weed, Gange, Dope, and now Travis Hugh Culley. Seems a little cumbersome. "Dude pass me the Travis Hugh Culley!"
oh yeah I agree about the book |
Yup. After reading 165's post, I think the cycling community at large (and Chicago specifically) would have been well served if that trucker had finished off THC.
The thing that bothers me about his political stance is that he basically says, "We should defeat the car culture and make everyone ride bicycles. Utopia will ensue." Cars aren’t going away. If we're going to share the road with vehicles that travel four or five times faster than we do and weigh 10 and 20 times more than we do, should we really be out there picking fights? Just can't figure out how anyone can think tying up intersections and shouting slogans at people as they sit in traffic you've made worse is a good idea. |
Originally Posted by superchivo
Just can't figure out how anyone can think tying up intersections and shouting slogans at people as they sit in traffic you've made worse is a good idea.
Let me earn that situation due to my own action. As for Travis.. Well.. I like the Travis from the Clash song.. |
Originally Posted by William Karsten
As for Travis.. Well.. I like the Travis from the Clash song..
I come from a long way away And I know a fine thing when I see it. See it For the same reason no one ever Pointed a telescope at the sun Talking about the red angels of new york city Chorus Who shot the shot? Who got shot tonite? Not even five enforcement agencies can save their own. Never mind the people Tonite it’s raining on the angels of the city Did anyone prophesize these people? Only travis Come in travis One of these days I’m gonna get myself organized. All the animals come out at night. Queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick venal. Some day a real rain will come and wash all the scum off the streets. Thank God for the rain to wash the trash off the sidewalk. listen you screwheads: Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the filth. Now I see clearly. Personally I know the alley Where jack feeds on the birds of night Not even bubbies on bicycles 2x2 Can stop the blood and feathers flying Waring overalls and for once and for all What is the dream? I’ll tell it To live like they do in the movies San juan you listening? Yeah I bet you are Hands up for hollywood Hooray I hear you Snappy on the air Hang in their Wall to wall You saved the worled What else? you saved the girl Chmpagne on ice No stranger to alcatraz To boot Or strip it down Chop it a little Being reasonable Just freedom to move To live For women to take a walk in the park at midnite Hey, but this is serious She can’t even get back home I come from a long way off And I know a lifegiver over a lifetaker For the same reason no-one ever pointed A gun at a policeman Talking about the red angels of new york city Yeah |
Wow. How apt.
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ahhh...The Clash....Taxi Driver....
Travis Hugh Culley = Travis Bickle...hmmm... "You lookin' at me?...truck driving guy...Are you lookin' at me?" |
Originally Posted by Schiek
ahhh...The Clash....Taxi Driver....
Travis Hugh Culley = Travis Bickle...hmmm... "You lookin' at me?...truck driving guy...Are you lookin' at me?" Sure seems neither car, nor messenger likes him. Not that I'm in a place of love or judging love.. |
critical mass is one of the most ******** things anyone on a bike can possibly ever do.
having gone to a number of them during a two year period, i can safely say that all they really do is fuel the cycle of aggression between cyclists and motorists. i actually feel LESS safe riding with them than i do by myself. and i'd always worry about running into someone who was behind us when i was on my way home and by myself. also, in boston, the week following a CM ride was always the worst week to ride a bike in the city. |
fitting. CMers...not a fan of them. Bicycle Advocacy via something like www.chibikefed.org , you bet.
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mmm....actual activism achieving actual results.
the thing i always hate is when die-hard CMers compare what they're doing with the civil rights movement. it really, REALLY pisses me off. and you see a lot of it over at the livejournal community bikepirates....which is why i don't really post on it anymore. |
for the record. I've done a handful of cm's and for the most part they're a total party. I once counted over 100 high-fives from ped & drivers alike. My hand was totally sore the next day I gotta wear gloves next time.
oh and they aren't ********, they're mentally challenged. jeff |
Fair enough...
To each their own.
I have seen them in passing and have been yelled at to join, but I cannot align myslef with something I do not totally believe in. Some pretty wishy-washy philosophies and some pretty lame grandstanding. CM has come a long way since its inception and being the young movement that it is, I hope it continues to morph into a well-organized, well-voiced group of activists. Great idea, sometimes poor execution. My favs in Chi-town: the highbikes. That crew rules. |
Superchivo-
"Cars aren’t going away. If we're going to share the road with vehicles that travel four or five times faster than we do and weigh 10 and 20 times more than we do, should we really be out there picking fights?" Dang man what kind of bike do you ride? :eek: Not a bad book for a first try,(sez the guy that can't even finish a short story) but pretty uneven. If you really want to have a scanners moment try reading "Nerves of Steel" You will think they shuffled the manuscript just before printing. Not a big fan of the critical mass. Don't want to be in one, don't want to spend a half hour at an intersection waiting for it to go by. |
I was figuring 10 X 200 lbs. (me + bike when I was in college)is 2000 lbs. (car)
20 X 215 (me + bike now) is 4300 (good sized SUV, but less than a Hummer) All Hummer drivers are out to get you anyway. |
I was thinking "weight of bike", then when I was underlining it I re-read it, did a little carry the two, realized my error and said "screw it, I already typed it out". :rolleyes:
I think it is worse than they are out to get us, i think they don't even notice. If I am going to get killed I would rather it be due to deliberate action than because someone was eating a sandwich while chatting on their phone and trying to fire up a lucky. |
yeah the lack of biker respect totally sucks. I've been hit twice in pretty ridiculous situations and in both cases it was due to distracted drivers. I split my riding time equally between a pretty bike friendly city to a pro-motor suburb and the difference is so huge.
Chicago drivers tend to give me more space and seem more aware of us. Heck most loop cops even wave me through intersections with a wave as thanks. Naperville drivers always cut it as close as possible have an annoying habit of honking at me. also the cops never seem to make up their minds as to whether I am or not supposed to be on the sidewalk (grrr) Kurremkarm: remember most drivers are cool, its just the jerks that stick out As for CM I completely understand not being into it, but must say if you haven't tried because of the politics you keep an open mind and show up for kicks, its a party. 165: Penny bikes and choppers are sooooo cool. I want to learn to weld! jeff |
Originally Posted by superchivo
I was figuring 10 X 200 lbs. (me + bike when I was in college)is 2000 lbs. (car)
20 X 215 (me + bike now) is 4300 (good sized SUV, but less than a Hummer) All Hummer drivers are out to get you anyway. |
Originally Posted by stickerguy
Chicago drivers tend to give me more space and seem more aware of us. Heck most loop cops even wave me through intersections with a wave as thanks. Naperville drivers always cut it as close as possible have an annoying habit of honking at me. also the cops never seem to make up their minds as to whether I am or not supposed to be on the sidewalk (grrr)
jeff Mark |
Originally Posted by Rev.Chuck
I think it is worse than they are out to get us, i think they don't even notice.
As I DROVE HOME yesterday (don't even ask why that's happening) I counted the times I made left turns and the gal/guy infront of me didn't look to see if there was a bike in the bike lane. Z goshdarn ro. Number of times a car pulled into the bike lane before looking for a cyclist when getting out of a drive way? consisistantly all. Admit it. We don't exist. |
Originally Posted by streetdog
Curb weight on a Hummer is 7600lbs! :eek:
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