bianchi vs. iro vs. masi vs. khs vs. fuji vs. specialized vs. surly vs. mercier etc..
07-25-08, 09:34 AM
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^^^^^^
was there drinking invalided, that has to be a lot of force there behind that to do something like that. or was it just locked up & someone kick/drove it in. That kind of sucks, by kind of I mean really.
I have actually heard that surly has some shoty work, a lot with the LHS, maybe just because there are so meny out there, there are going to be more problems.
was there drinking invalided, that has to be a lot of force there behind that to do something like that. or was it just locked up & someone kick/drove it in. That kind of sucks, by kind of I mean really.
I have actually heard that surly has some shoty work, a lot with the LHS, maybe just because there are so meny out there, there are going to be more problems.
07-25-08, 12:54 PM
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^^^^^^
was there drinking invalided, that has to be a lot of force there behind that to do something like that. or was it just locked up & someone kick/drove it in. That kind of sucks, by kind of I mean really.
I have actually heard that surly has some shoty work, a lot with the LHS, maybe just because there are so meny out there, there are going to be more problems.
was there drinking invalided, that has to be a lot of force there behind that to do something like that. or was it just locked up & someone kick/drove it in. That kind of sucks, by kind of I mean really.
I have actually heard that surly has some shoty work, a lot with the LHS, maybe just because there are so meny out there, there are going to be more problems.
07-25-08, 12:56 PM
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You really do need to try these various bikes before you buy them. I was in the same sit. as you a few weeks ago (comparing entry level fixed gear) and just called up various bike shops to see what they had that I could test drive. This made it really easy for me to choose:
-I realized I wanted something that comes w/ brakes. That rules out Fuji Track, Kilo, and a bunch of others.
-I liked upright, track geometry. That rules out Surly Steamroller, Kona Paddywagon, etc.
-I wanted to have a flip-flop hub so I would have a freewheel just in case. Fixed gear is more tiring, and you might want to run SS sometimes.
-I realized I wanted to buy from an actual shop. I don't really have the tools, skills, or patience to do my own assembly and maintainence right now.
So that's a start. From there just see what feels good. Also, if look sare important to you then take that into consideration after components and comfort.
I ended up getting a Madison and really like it so far. If you're going to be commuting with youre bike and don't need the lightest frame out there it's good. Main problem w/ it is the weight, alot of which comes from cheapish stems, seatpost, etc.
-I realized I wanted something that comes w/ brakes. That rules out Fuji Track, Kilo, and a bunch of others.
-I liked upright, track geometry. That rules out Surly Steamroller, Kona Paddywagon, etc.
-I wanted to have a flip-flop hub so I would have a freewheel just in case. Fixed gear is more tiring, and you might want to run SS sometimes.
-I realized I wanted to buy from an actual shop. I don't really have the tools, skills, or patience to do my own assembly and maintainence right now.
So that's a start. From there just see what feels good. Also, if look sare important to you then take that into consideration after components and comfort.
I ended up getting a Madison and really like it so far. If you're going to be commuting with youre bike and don't need the lightest frame out there it's good. Main problem w/ it is the weight, alot of which comes from cheapish stems, seatpost, etc.
07-25-08, 02:06 PM
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IRO Mark V. I got mine and it has been a whirlwind love affair ever since. But she is one high maintenance beeootch. But hey your project is never done when you're into fixed gears.
07-25-08, 04:09 PM
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Damn! I knew the chainline on the Surly completes what standardly 3mm off, but this is insane! He must have done more than just knocked his chain off of his rear cog. Unless your freind is a professional racer, it takes more than a pedal stroke to bend a frame like that! In any case, it seems like this is something that can happen to pretty much any non-carbon fiber bike frame (well, perhaps aluminum would have split in two). Your friend must have been careless with his bike.
07-26-08, 10:28 AM
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no way that was just from a slipped chain. Likely all that would do is lock up the wheel. I suppose the inertia of the wheel could create a lot of force, but the rotational force should cause the whole bike to cartwheel with you on it, long before it would so severely bend the frame.
Me thinks a car was involved - like as is you forgot the bike was lying down behind your car when you backed out of your parking space....
Me thinks a car was involved - like as is you forgot the bike was lying down behind your car when you backed out of your parking space....
07-26-08, 02:15 PM
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i love the **** out of my masi. nice in-between geometry since i'm probably only going to see the velodrome once in my life. great for commuting. mine's orange.
