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Old 07-31-08, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by skinnyboy
oh man, this is a smart component. DIY? What are they called? where can I get it?

That's a fancy one. BMX specific. There is probably a box at your LBS that has the washer/welded ones for $2-$3

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Hello All,

Thanks for the various responses. I'm learning quite a bit. Just to answer/address and comment on a few posts:

1. I've stripped out (and sold, unfortunately) the components already. For what it's worth, it was all Shimano 600, except RD, which was a RD100.

2. Here's what the frame currently look like:



3. I would indeed like to do the build-up myself, but I'm stumped when it comes to being mechanically inclined. I wish I could find a list (perhaps borrowing from the lists accompanying all those fixes on velospace?) of components and tools to buy/find , and then a local fixie wrench-guru who'd not mind walking me through the process of building up this guy one step at a time (having a work-stand that I can borrow would be great too ).

4. I think I will indeed go with this horizontal drop out, warts and all. I do appreciate the comment about safety concerns, but it seems that a mechanically catastrophic event due to the horizontal dropout is rather tolerable, so I'll take a chance. Perhaps the first slippage will scare the crap out of me and shrink the size of my testicular spheres fast enough that I'll change my mind.

5. I think someone mentioned about the tire clearance. I couldn't quite understand how that plays in the overall scenario of conversion. So, when in doubt, post a picture and ask the question: is the width/clearance of my drop-outs cause for concern in this conversion/build-up?




Thanks very much again, guys.
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Or you can get even fancier and have the NJS ones

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so what if it's custom, are you suddenly NOT a jackass?
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Originally Posted by bigbris1
It's my thoughts and opinions. Not bashing anyone.
Ah, I see.

So if I said, "It seems to me that bigbris1 is talking out of his dirt-chute and it also seems to me that bigbris1 doesn't know his dirt-chute from a hole in the ground when it comes to bike safety," I'm not bashing you? I'm just... sharing my thoughts and feelings? And that's not a bash?

Ok, dude, you and I are from different worlds.

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And, I don't hate you, Tim
I don't hate you either. I do think you're a bit skewed on some things, but who isn't? I mean, if you're going to be pro-safety, then be pro-safety. If not, don't. *shrug*
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OP, read some sheldon, he will be able to answer a lot of the questions you have asked here as well as give you the answers to the question you have not thought of yet.

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixed-conversion.html
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Originally Posted by 1jacktripper
Hello All,

Thanks for the various responses. I'm learning quite a bit. Just to answer/address and comment on a few posts:

1. I've stripped out (and sold, unfortunately) the components already. For what it's worth, it was all Shimano 600, except RD, which was a RD100.

2. Here's what the frame currently look like:



3. I would indeed like to do the build-up myself, but I'm stumped when it comes to being mechanically inclined. I wish I could find a list (perhaps borrowing from the lists accompanying all those fixes on velospace?) of components and tools to buy/find , and then a local fixie wrench-guru who'd not mind walking me through the process of building up this guy one step at a time (having a work-stand that I can borrow would be great too ).

4. I think I will indeed go with this horizontal drop out, warts and all. I do appreciate the comment about safety concerns, but it seems that a mechanically catastrophic event due to the horizontal dropout is rather tolerable, so I'll take a chance. Perhaps the first slippage will scare the crap out of me and shrink the size of my testicular spheres fast enough that I'll change my mind.

5. I think someone mentioned about the tire clearance. I couldn't quite understand how that plays in the overall scenario of conversion. So, when in doubt, post a picture and ask the question: is the width/clearance of my drop-outs cause for concern in this conversion/build-up?




Thanks very much again, guys.
I would've kept the Shimano 600 gear. D'oh!

There won't be slippage; all this back-and-forth in the thread is between one guy who thinks it's possible (based on silly reasoning), and the rest of us who claim that it is extremely, remotely, 99.99% unlikely to ever occur.

Also, if you're feeling handy, a workstand can be built with about $35 of material and a little time: https://www.instructables.com/id/PVC-Bike-Repair-Stand/
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Originally Posted by 1fluffhead
Or you can get even fancier and have the NJS ones

which will be very very hard to make work.
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^^^Of course, but what chain tugs have you seen for a conversion yet that didn't need filing/modification of some sort. Chain tugs are not made for forward facing drop outs. We both know that.

FWIW I don't support the use of them anyways. All you needs is to make sure your bolts are tighten down properly and all will be well.
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Originally Posted by 1jacktripper
Hello All,

Thanks for the various responses. I'm learning quite a bit. Just to answer/address and comment on a few posts:

1. I've stripped out (and sold, unfortunately) the components already. For what it's worth, it was all Shimano 600, except RD, which was a RD100.
Big mistake. Most of the components would have worked well on a conversion and now you're just going to have to buy them all over again.
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Originally Posted by bigbris1
Why take a chance, even is the chance of the wheel slipping is very small? I admit, there are road frames with dropouts that the chance of the axle moving out is next to impossible. But there are other frames that look like no amount of tightening will keep the wheel in. This is my perspective. I wouldn't ride a conversion for this reason. What you choose to do is up to you. But I would never advise anyone to do something I wouldn't do (not that you are) and wouldn't advise people to do some of the things I do.
Why wake up and get out of bed in the morning? A comet might just fly throught the air and blow up your front porch as you step outside for your morning death commute. Nothing in life is definite, not even a track end. Just be prepared, know what you're doing before you do it and you should be fine. OP seems to getting all the info he needs, & more. So hopefully he'll be alright. As for taking chances, riding brakeless, no matter how skilled you think you are, is taking a much bigger chance than horizontal dropouts.
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Old 07-31-08, 01:56 PM
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That will make a sweet conversion but I agree with joetotale - if you sold everything, you sold some things you could use for the conversion that you'll now have to buy all over again.
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The inanity of some of the posts on this thread makes me miss Sheldon all the more.
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