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OT: College student costs

Old 08-06-08, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Buglady View Post
Well, that and our drinking age IS 18. (19 in some provinces). So jumping the gun by a year or two isn't a huge deal, versus three or four years.

Then again, I have never understood the 21 thing personally. You can vote, join the military, and get married before you can legally order a beer? How does that make sense?
They believe that Adults livers don't fully stop developing till their 21.
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^ ^ ^ Which is really a bunch of pseudoscientific justification to try and uphold a bad paradigm. The law creates more problems then it fixes. "Freest" country in the world, oldest drinking age in the world? Good one...

I love how science is worshipped as the end-all truth and yet is so easily corrupted. Pay the funds, have your sponsored study slant whichever way you want, and then present it to the public as fact. This happens every day.
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Old 08-06-08, 12:06 PM
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it all depends on how much you drink (frequency and amount) and if you smoke cigarettes. i spend probably 20 bucks on beer if i drink three nights out of the week. i usually spend around 6 bucks on beer in a night...sometimes more.

i guess it depends on what state you live in too because of taxes and what not.

also, living off campus can be much much cheaper than living on campus. where i live it is significantly cheaper to live off campus than to live on campus and get a meal plan. i guess it all depends on the area surrounding your college.
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Old 08-06-08, 12:58 PM
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I probably spent well over $200 a week on liquor my first year and a little less my 2nd year. I was completely out of control and surprised I didn't die. Probably $50 or less years 3 and 4. I did manage to graduate on time. I had just gotten out of the military and had a grip full of money.
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Originally Posted by Buglady View Post
Then again, I have never understood the 21 thing personally. You can vote, join the military, and get married before you can legally order a beer? How does that make sense?
The drinking age was raised in order to prevent college-aged kids from drinking and then driving (or doing other risky activities while intoxicated). The law worked so well at stopping people under 21 from drinking that it's been in place ever since.
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for those who are in college and have been through college. i'm curious of how you guys decide how much to spend on bike parts? i'll probably make around $70 to $80 a week and i'm living in the dorm so i don't have to pay rent or utilities. and no car so no gas/insurance/ect.

not a drinker so i don't have to worry about the booze
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Old 08-06-08, 07:57 PM
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i spent six dollars on a bike from a yard sale freshman year of college, and rode that through graduation, probably dumping $50 total in maintenance. had different priorities back then.
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A lot of this depends on what you get for financial aid. In my experience, if you get the total amount (cost of attendance) somehow, that will be more than enough money to pay for all of your food, bikes, and whatever you decide to waste your money on. Contrary to what most people will tell you, you'll have more expendable cash if you live on campus. It is more expensive, but living of campus ends up costing more unless you have extreme amounts of self control in your spending habits, and are able to cook for yourself on a daily basis. the two biggest expenses you can find in college are #1, a girlfriend, and #2, eating out at restaurants.

As for how much you spend on booze, you probably aren't going to want to drink every day, but that being said your best bang for the buck is a gallon of monarch vodka and assorted mixing juices, such as orange juice, sobe, sodas, or pineapple juice. If you drink, you'll probably end up smoking at some point when you're drunk. The hookah is too good to turn down, and even I will succumb to the hookah on occasion. Boone's farm and cheap beer is a waste of money because of the low alcohol content vs. amount of liquid you are consuming. Not to mention the calories. You'll get fat from drinking 12 beers every time you get drunk, and trust me it doesn't take long to get to the point where you'll need 2 pitchers of bud light to be drunk. Also, try to "pre-funk" before you go to the bar or parties, bars are usually expensive and parties that aren't BYOB (bring your own booze) will probably charge for access to the keg, which is usually crappy light beer.

It's also very easy to squander your financial aid on car, bike, electronic stuff when you're living in the dorms/on campus since you have just about no expenses. Be careful about how much you spend and you'll be totally fine. Keep in mind the cost of attendance usually includes the purchase price of a computer, as well as transportation costs, so in most cases you can waste about $1000 a semester on random stuff and still have money for food/alcohol.

YMMV (your mileage [experience] may vary). Just try to have fun. Make an effort to go to class, and try to at least finish everything, a 50% is much better than a 0%. College will be a life changing experience for most people, it's hard to anticipate how you will change and react to your situation.
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That last bit of advice sounded pitiful. No offense but if college is party over study you don't belong there. GTFO my government money and don't waste your school's resources. Don't "make an effort to go to class," make an effort to strive to never miss a class without some dire circumstance. Your first semester will be woefully easy and if you can't take the academic heat of at least a 3.4 or so while getting adjusted and having fun you don't belong there. You don't get a >3 GPA by "making an effort" in any decent school in a science or engineering field.

Do I sound crass and biased? You bet. I think education above state-mandated is a privledge but with the great power and advantage of an education comes great responsibility among your school, your parents, your nation, and, if you have any dignity, yourself.
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Old 08-06-08, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by peabodypride View Post
That last bit of advice sounded pitiful.
Well that's fine because it wasn't meant for you. Based on your posts in this thread you sound very out of touch with what actually happens at most colleges.
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Originally Posted by mazdaspeed View Post
Well that's fine because it wasn't meant for you. Based on your posts in this thread you sound very out of touch with what actually happens at most colleges.
I am very in touch and have had slight engagement with it while living on campus. I quickly realized it is not the proper place for a true student and I simply advise other freshmen to think for themselves and perhaps forgo the party atmosphere.
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Old 08-06-08, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by peabodypride View Post
I am very in touch and have had slight engagement with it while living on campus. I quickly realized it is not the proper place for a true student and I simply advise other freshmen to think for themselves and perhaps forgo the party atmosphere.
Read the OPs question. I'd say that I took a fair crack at answering it/expanding on it, as well as addressing other peoples' questions and concerns in this thread. You're just preaching.
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Old 08-06-08, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by peabodypride View Post
I am very in touch and have had slight engagement with it while living on campus. I quickly realized it is not the proper place for a true student and I simply advise other freshmen to think for themselves and perhaps forgo the party atmosphere.
You make it sound like it's impossible to drink in college, even go to parties, and stay serious about school at the same time.

It's all about balance. I don't really see how going out on weekends is going to effect someone's studies in the first year. I took Latin, one of the hardest classes of my life, on top of maxing out the rest of my credits and working a part time job (Spring term only), while still managing to keep the grades up, have a good time going out every weekend and find the time to do long rides/training on the bike, or go to the gym in the winter when the weather was too windy/rainy/nasty for a civil 2-3 hour ride. Not to mention post on BF... haha. Once you figure out the rules to the college game, it's not like you have to consume every last minute of time out of class studying.
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Old 08-06-08, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tepr View Post
This is absolutely false. Colleges realize that their students are adults. I have never heard of a university notifying a student's parents after single infraction. In fact I've never heard of it at all
i know at my school and a lot of other since you are legally adults, 18+, you sign a contract letting your parents have access to your grades, course load, etc...
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Originally Posted by peabodypride View Post
I am very in touch and have had slight engagement with it while living on campus. I quickly realized it is not the proper place for a true student
Please don't insult me by telling me I'm not a proper student because I go to one of the top party (and research) schools in the nation and I like drinking/smoking/other things of this nature.

Originally Posted by peabodypride View Post
I simply advise other freshmen to think for themselves and perhaps forgo the party atmosphere.
Take your own advice man... let people think for themselves.
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Hahaha, I got to know the burrito guy pretty well. $3 out the door, open 'til 4 AM! How could I refuse?
Jesus christ... *jealous*

Living here in hawaii SUCKS. Yeah... it's paradise and there is tons of talent walking around in nothing but a thong bikini but really... it sucks. Food places close here at 9pm, latest, unless we're talking about jack in the crack.

Sure there are a few open later till the wee hours, but its like ramen bowl crap. I'd kill for a burrito place open till 4. My offices are in downtown too, and being that I'm a designer/hacker and code all night generally it really sucks balls to not have anything post.... 6pm here in downtown. Its a 5 mile ride to get other goodies and even that only lasts till like I said around 9 or 10.
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Right on, dude! How totally lame of those Hawaiians. I'm sure they would be heartbroken if you left their islands sometime soon.

I mean what does a tropical island have on ****ty ******** burritos at 4 in the morning? Nothing!!!

You've captured a significant portion of my loathing of modernity right here in one post. Nice work. You can design and hack like a pro but you are unable to make a burrito?

Jesus christ.
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Originally Posted by peabodypride View Post
I am very in touch and have had slight engagement with it while living on campus. I quickly realized it is not the proper place for a true student and I simply advise other freshmen to think for themselves and perhaps forgo the party atmosphere.
Don't worry too much man. The average college student is going to graduate with a useless degree and have $20,000 of debt.

If you're serious you won't be one of them.
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