Those look and sound awesome, I think I'll try them out!

i had ultegra spd-sl's on for a while, but it would just hurt too much while standing and walking in them. the foot retension was amazing, though. i had it cranked all the way. last week i bought some sidi bullet 2s with shimano m540s and i ***ing love em. i have the tension cranked down as tight as i think they can go and, even though i almost never skid, the times that i have had to i have never had a problem.

clipless > pedals/clips/straps

i will probably never go back. i might buy a set of these though, for short trips to the bar or whatever when i don't want to be walking around in the sidis.

http://store.airbomb.com/mmAirbomb/I...e/q/PD1126.jpg http://www.performancebike.com/produ...-NCL-ANGLE.jpg

I tried those clipless = clips thing as the images posted above. One thing I didn't realize when I bought the cheap plastic gadgets is that on a clipless pedal, that plastic cage and platform is the heavy side. Thus, before getting your foot in there, they are COMPLETELY upside down. Plus, they have a really useless toe flicking edge, the tiny nubs are nearly smooth and do not stick out very far. All told its nearly impossible to get your foot in there when the pedal is moving! And when it is not moving, its very difficult. To make matters even worse, the "quick switch" appeal is completely ruined by the fact that getting the platforms on and off is way more difficult than getting your clipless shoes on and off the cleats. It was actually faster for me to grab a pedal wrench and change the pedals than get those things off the clipless pedals. Go figure!

I tried more than a few pairs of Shimano MTB shoes as I wanted a casual looking shoe that I could walk in, really didnt like any of them, really flexy and very uncomfortable :( I tried these from Performance and they are ****ing great! :love: They are stiff, VERY easy to walk in, and are fairly low priced! ($60.00 on sale!) I gave up the "casual look" for comfort and performance, best move Ive ever made :thumb: I added a pic of my Ritchey pedals as they have been very, very good to me :)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...snshoes004.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...snshoes003.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...snshoes002.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...snshoes001.jpg

I have such a ***** for the Ritchey Ti V4 pedals. The price tag, however, leaves me limp.

Time ATACs

Toronto, ON...Degrassi... ;) Great show!

If you want better retention dont touch egg beaters. They are really easy to get out of.

I havent used them personally, but Ive heard a lot of good stuff about Time ATAC. Id def go with them.

**** just blew my mind,

If you want to skid use clips. with clips anything works.

if you havent used them, dont say they are easy to get out of! i use them, i skid, blah blah. they are awesome! i haven't EVER had a foot come unlocked when i didnt want it to.

Does anyone know if the current line-up of Time pedals and cleats would be compatible with the oldest Time pedals and cleats. I found an old pair of shoes that I would like to pair with a new set of ATACs.

Old Times used a 4 bolt system. New times use the look style 3 bolt. So no.

But the OP should really try the Cinelli M-71's. They are impossible to clip out accidently :)

Eggbeaters: blew a spring on one set, and a bearing on a second.
Time ATAC: heavy; slop in the retention allowed the shoe to lift a millimeter or so off of the pedal when fully clipped-in; knees hated the re-centering float.

Now riding VP One Bebop pedals:

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...jim/pedal1.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...jim/pedal2.jpg

Like SpeedPlay pedals, but without the bulky road-shoe-only cleat.