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Leader 721TR is out.

Old 08-17-08, 01:18 AM
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Leader 721TR is out.

It's almost all black! (or white). the stickers are sorta ghosted and less noticable. I think it's changed from an IS integrated headset to a Zero Stack headset now. Also it's more track specific and not road specific like the old 720TR. the geometry is now different. and it's also $189 now..





so.. what do you guys think? is it too "track" for a first SSFG build?
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Old 08-17-08, 01:22 AM
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It definitely isn't too "track" for the track... Kinda makes me want to take up GTAW in my sleep...
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looks good. just don't put the track fork on it and then jump off curbs.
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Old 08-17-08, 01:33 AM
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btw it's up on ebay if you guys wanna check out the specs. https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=380055999161
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this is exactly what i was waiting for from leader. but i have a sizing question for the frame. when i went to my lbs and got sized up they said i should be on a 56cm frame with a 579mm toptube. but looking at the sizing for the new leader frame it seems i am inbetween sizes. should i go for the 55cm with a 567mm toptube or the 58cm with a 584mm toptube?
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diesel - are you the same guy from the tex? as in vortex =p?
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Old 08-17-08, 02:47 AM
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diesel - are you the same guy from the tex? as in vortex =p?
haha.. yup that's me. same guy that used to run dieselstation.com too before i sold it.
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Does anybody know if the 721tr frame has a hole for a rear break? The "pure track geometry" does not implicate that but I was just wondering. Any information on the frame weight? On the leader homepage I could not even find the new frame or any information on it yet.
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Old 08-17-08, 09:28 AM
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looks cheap to me, then again it's a leader...
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the welds on the rear drop outs dont look very nice, Im sure they are sturdy and all.. but they are just ugly.
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Old 08-17-08, 11:21 AM
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^^ Was thinking the exact same thing. Looks like a terrible welding job.
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Old 08-17-08, 11:37 AM
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The rest of the welds look okay to me. :shrug:
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I feel like some filler w/ a tig and some grinding could make this look good


but ****...even flat paint can't hide the poor welds haha
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Funny, the leader always gets passed on the bell lap.
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you always get passed on the bell lap


I want to see if leader will sell me a frame kit and let me weld it myself
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Originally Posted by Bobthefish View Post
Does anybody know if the 721tr frame has a hole for a rear break? The "pure track geometry" does not implicate that but I was just wondering. Any information on the frame weight? On the leader homepage I could not even find the new frame or any information on it yet.
... brakes are not kosher on the track. If there are brake holes on this frame, it is no longer "pure" or "true" anything but a crappy frame with track ends.

Oh, and it's brake.
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Old 08-17-08, 12:36 PM
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i know this a noob question but what makes them poor welds? i guess ive come from seeing cylcecross bikes and sturdier bikes with similar welding.
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Welds look about right for a sub $200 frame.

I rather like it for a cheap aluminum frame--- no compact geometry, no inappropriate braze-ons or cable stops. Then again, how cheap is it, with the fork and headset?
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Old 08-17-08, 01:40 PM
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I'd ride it if I needed a budget frame. Probably stiff. Plenty good
power transfer.
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Old 08-17-08, 01:42 PM
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i went on a moon ride last night and some guy had the older one (with the stupid huge dropouts) and other than the dropouts i really liked it. i have the leader forks (aluminum) and there stuff is awesome. i will be getting one of these.
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Old 08-17-08, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PatricktheDude View Post
this is exactly what i was waiting for from leader. but i have a sizing question for the frame. when i went to my lbs and got sized up they said i should be on a 56cm frame with a 579mm toptube. but looking at the sizing for the new leader frame it seems i am inbetween sizes. should i go for the 55cm with a 567mm toptube or the 58cm with a 584mm toptube?
how much do you like your nuts? (or other goodies)
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Old 08-17-08, 01:51 PM
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its pretty ugly is it not?
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more importantly, how long are your legs and torso? there's no way for us to say.
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Nice to see there is talk about the 721TR. Check out the white frame too.

721TR will be posted on the Leader site on Monday. We expect to have extra part options for our fixie and track specific frames in a few months. Wheels with tires, sprockets, headsets, bar, stem, caliper options, chain, and crank sets.

Welding on the 721TR frames are impeccable. Photos do not do justice to the frames.

If anyone has any questions for Leader please e-mail us contact@leaderbikeusa.com

Here is a nice write-up of our other model the 720TR by JSC cycles

https://jcscycles.com/l720tr.html

Thank you everyone here on the forum.

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Old 08-17-08, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cizzlak View Post
... brakes are not kosher on the track. If there are brake holes on this frame, it is no longer "pure" or "true" anything but a crappy frame with track ends.

Oh, and it's brake.
This is complete BS!

Check out EAI Bareknuckle frames. Perhaps not pure. But Great for track, great for road. NOT crappy.
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