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pedals that wont hit front wheel while turning

Old 09-11-08, 06:51 PM
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pedals that wont hit front wheel while turning

I have a question for all the track frame riders. Does anyone know what pedals wont hit the front wheel when you turn. I ride a 04 white specialized langster pro with some older shimano 105 pedals. While i know it's a track frame and many people have this problem, I use it as a daily commuter and would like to be able to turn tightly if I have to. Does the MKS pedals or any other brand have a smaller distance from the spindle to the end of the toe clips. Maybe something smaller then 10 mm.

What do other trakc riders use to commute on?

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Old 09-11-08, 07:02 PM
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Its pretty much the nature of the beast when riding a track geometry.
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Old 09-11-08, 07:03 PM
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Getting smaller toeclips to defeat overlap is a really bad idea. Toe overlap is really only a problem at low speeds and its really easy to just get used to it. I have a lot of overlap and its never become a serious issue. If your toe clips don't fit right it will be really uncomfortable.
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Old 09-11-08, 07:05 PM
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SPD pedals. Clips are strictly for hipsters.

Or flip the rear wheel and commute single speed.
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Old 09-11-08, 07:13 PM
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https://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/20...o-problem.html

It should only be a problem at low speed. just be aware of it and you should be fine.
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You need to get taller so you can ride a bigger wheelbase
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Old 09-11-08, 07:17 PM
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I'm not into brakes. Kinda defeats the prupose of owning a track specific bike. My hub is also only fixed it's a miche primato hub.

it only seems like 1-2mm away from clearing the tire. I used to own MKS on a previous bike and it seems they were smaller than the 105s. I like the clips because my commute is so short. i only hit when i'm trying to track stand it's not really a problem, but was just curious if anyone does anything different.
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Old 09-11-08, 07:25 PM
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You could try a shorter crank, 165mm may help your toe overlap.
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Old 09-11-08, 07:26 PM
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i'm taller than the average man, 5' 11" but have a short arm reach.
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Three options;
1) Shorter cranks,
2) egg beaters
3) road fork with more rake

Your toes will still overlap the front wheel regardless.
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Originally Posted by sanjosedowntown View Post
I'm not into brakes. Kinda defeats the prupose of owning a track specific bike.

Hmmmm. I'll let you think about that one for a bit.




(for those in Rio Linda, he is not commuting to work via the velodrome)
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Originally Posted by sanjosedowntown View Post
I'm not into brakes. Kinda defeats the prupose of owning a track specific bike. My hub is also only fixed it's a miche primato hub.
Umm, champ. Riding a track bike on the street defeats the purpose of owning a track bike. Grow up tough guy.
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i'm not asking about brakes in the first place, just asking if the make pedals that are 1 -2 mm smaller than the ones i currently own. i also use it on the track.
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Originally Posted by sanjosedowntown View Post
i'm not asking about brakes in the first place, just asking if the make pedals that are 1 -2 mm smaller than the ones i currently own. i also use it on the track.
if you are sure it's only 1-2mm you need why not dremel your current clips.

I highly doubt 1-2mm is all you need.

That bike of yours is designed NOT to turn tightly, as one never needs to do that on the track.

the three options you have have been given too you, but you seem incapable of reading or getting over yourself.
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Old 09-11-08, 07:36 PM
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i wish i could afford smaller cranks, i'm looking at the cheapest way to solve the problem.
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Old 09-11-08, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sanjosedowntown View Post
i wish i could afford smaller cranks, i'm looking at the cheapest way to solve the problem.

You've got some high end parts on that thing and you are worried about affording a new crank?

I can think of 3-4 cranks you could buy that you could find on ebay for under $50.
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Old 09-11-08, 07:46 PM
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well that is an option, but i'm in love with how the miche primato cranks look and feel. So all pedals that have clips have exactly the same length?

sorry if i pissed people off, but it really was a simple question.

thanks for who has helped
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Old 09-11-08, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sanjosedowntown View Post
I'm not into brakes. Kinda defeats the prupose of owning a track specific bike.
lol...but riding one on the street doesn't. haha.

just learn to time your sharp turns, or get a bike with more relaxed geo for a commuter. done.
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Old 09-11-08, 07:48 PM
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hey, this is the reason bfssfg gets so much flack. let people do what they want, the guy was asking about toe overlap. whatever his reasons for doing so, let's help him out. if it really is just a matter of mm's, think about using switching to smaller clips, or using a smaller tire (there's a slight difference if you're running 700x28's vs 700x23's). neither is ideal, but short of the alternatives such as switching out the cranks, switching out the fork, switching to clipless, switching the frame altogether for a more relaxed head-tube angle, these are probably the best options.
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Old 09-11-08, 07:52 PM
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funny you say that.. i have some miche primato track pedals/clips that allow much more clearance than my mks setup. i'm not sure of the sizing of the clips, but the mks are large, and there is serious overlap with them, the miche's only have an overlap of a few mm's like you are talking about. still iprefer the mks setup because it feels better, and is easier to get my feet into on the fly. the overlap only realy matters when turningat a crawling pace, or sometimes while trackstanding...
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Old 09-11-08, 07:56 PM
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The ball of your foot should always be over the spindle of the pedal. If you get smaller clips you will mess with the ergonomics of the pedal and your feet will hurt.

So basically deal with it.

Also if your clip is hitting the wheel when track standing, your doing it wrong. The front of your wheel is supposed to be angled to the side of your forward foot
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Old 09-11-08, 08:00 PM
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FFS, there is no cheap option. Either get new cranks that are shorter or deal with it.
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Can anyone tell me where someone mentioned brakes to this guy? His first post was about clips so people told him to get over it because it's the nature of the beast and then his response was "I'm not into riding with brakes"

wtf? Where did anyone tell you that you had to use brakes?
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Old 09-11-08, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by straws papers View Post
Can anyone tell me where someone mentioned brakes to this guy? His first post was about clips so people told him to get over it because it's the nature of the beast and then his response was "I'm not into riding with brakes"

wtf? Where did anyone tell you that you had to use brakes?
think it was in response to someone suggesting single speed
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