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Old 09-14-08, 03:51 PM
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URGENT: (actually)

The guy who's selling this is waiting to hear back from me, i offered 160 for this pista concept frameset.

Its so cheap because the seattube is cracked.

Is it repairable at all?

even if I have to make the seatpost not move-able.




Please lemme know, thanks.


EDIT: It was cracked from having the seat post up too far.


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know anyone who can weld aluminum?
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know anyone who can weld aluminum?
Yes, he says lowest is 175, should i take it?

Thanks
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hell no. that **** is at a bad spot and alumni is so dangerous once its been cracked like that. save ur teeth, face, ass, b/c that **** will crack eventually
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The fact there is a crack in this aluminum frame should mean that you should walk away from the deal.
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i can't tell from the picture, is the crack just surface or can u see it on the inside too. either way. i don't think its worth it. i know thats not what u want to hear
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Any ideas on how to repair it at all? I really have wanted this frame for a long time.
thanks
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not worth it
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If the guy who can weld aluminum is actually familiar with frames and has some kind of system for patching tubes, and the total cost is still a deal, and you have a 410 mm seatpost that you can put most of the way in for extra support, you should be ok. AFAIK the only way you can crack a seat tube like that is by putting a post in that's beyond the minimum insertion mark, so I don't think it's a particularly high-stress area. And, if it fails, it'll mean that the seatpost suddenly shifts - much better than a crack in the downtube or whatever.
I wouldn't do it, but if you're light and a gambling person, it would probably be ok. I would try to offer less than 160 though - anyone dumb enough to break a frame in that way has probably done other stupid things to it that you don't even know about yet.
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Scary ****. Don't do it.
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Originally Posted by dmg View Post
If the guy who can weld aluminum is actually familiar with frames and has some kind of system for patching tubes, and the total cost is still a deal, and you have a 410 mm seatpost that you can put most of the way in for extra support, you should be ok. AFAIK the only way you can crack a seat tube like that is by putting a post in that's beyond the minimum insertion mark, so I don't think it's a particularly high-stress area. And, if it fails, it'll mean that the seatpost suddenly shifts - much better than a crack in the downtube or whatever.
I wouldn't do it, but if you're light and a gambling person, it would probably be ok. I would try to offer less than 160 though - anyone dumb enough to break a frame in that way has probably done other stupid things to it that you don't even know about yet.
OK,
what if i put the aluminum seatpost in almost all the way and welded it to the collar? After welding the crack?
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Originally Posted by BrooklynTrack View Post
Any ideas on how to repair it at all? I really have wanted this frame for a long time.
thanks
They would (hopefully) clean the crack, put some kind of sealant or epoxy on it, and then weld a gusset around the affected area. So you're going to have a visible sleeve around the top to the tube, if that changes anything.
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I the frame has been stressed hard enough to have
cracks that are visible what else may appear once you start
riding it on the street? Probably lots of fatigue in other places--
=headache and waste of money.
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it seems like he is going to get it anyway. good luck. let us know how it works out for u.
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Might pay $50 for it, it's really more trouble than it's worth.
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just save for a little more time and get a frame that wont break your face
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I say that sh*t is unsafe because it may fail in other places if it has
already been ridden till it cracked.
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Well, you were right.
Here's the bike built up, what a tragedy.
any other ideas?

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I wouldn't pay more than $50 for a frame cracked like that.
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i bought one 3 years ago with a dent on the top tube before i knew anything. i had it in my apt for months and met other people that had their alum. frames die on them. i sold that thing quick and never bothered with dented/cracked frames like that again.
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Originally Posted by BrooklynTrack View Post
Any ideas on how to repair it at all? I really have wanted this frame for a long time.
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Then save your money and buy a new one, or used one that's never been damaged. Such a waste to pay $160... then the price of the welding... and then pay for it with a broken face.
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You could always call Bianchi and ask them whether it can be repaired. In a related story, there was a local (PIttsburgh) guy who was selling an IF Crown Jewel frame that had been damaged (the seat stays were bent toward the seattube). The seller said it happened in shipping, methinks it was his entering the garage and forgetting a bike is on top. I sent the info to IF and eveb they advised against it due to the fact that there may be unseen damage to the frame.
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WTF..........Who rides around with that much of a saddle / bar offset?

Walk away, the seller deserves to eat the cost of ruining his frame.
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carefully clean the seat tube
get a long seatpost
measure carefully where it goes with the pedals, saddle and shoes you will use for the rest of the bikes short life
liberally apply jbweld
insert
let dry.
live in tarck heaven on your peice of **** concept for a few months and hope it doesn't fail catastrophically.

Seriously this is something you do to a free frame for a bike you're going to beat the **** out of not something you spend 160 on.
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