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Old 09-15-08, 07:42 PM   #1
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Opinions on the new ReLoad Midpack?

I'm looking at ordering one of the new Midpacks. Does anyone on here have one, or at least have seen one? Any opinions?

The only thing that makes me hesitate is the mesh side pockets -- I hate that kind of material. I wrote them and asked if they'd use cordura instead. They said no.




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Old 09-15-08, 08:35 PM   #2
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i don't have one but i have to say 250 for that bag is insane. i paid 250 and got a custom chicago w.i.g bag that i could live in if need be. with the compression straps, the bag gets smaller and i have never said, ugg this bag is to big.
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my opinion is they are way too ****in expensive than i'd ever want to pay for a bag
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i think i'm going to order mine next week for my birthday. it's definitely expensive but i don't think it's necessarily overpriced for something hand made to order. i went over to trackstar when they got one in just to check it out and make sure it was right for me. it definitely holds a lot without being overly huge. not a big fan of the mesh stuff but i can actually see myself using that pouch. the outside pocket is also big enough to be useful, you can definitely fit a few notebooks or a full tool kit in it with some tubes. the straps and back were padded and comfortable and easily adjustable. as a comparison, trackstar also had the regular large reload backpack. i considered getting it because the price is almost the same and you get a lot more space, but it's just not really what i want. the midpack is a great weekend trip bag, school bag and then some, etc. i know i can't fit 2 full 30 packs in it like the bigger backpack, or use it as luggage on a long trip. but thats just not what i need, and it wasn't as comfortable even when strapped down flat. so, midpack it is, i almost bought the one they had but i think the cool part about reload is custom ordering, so i'll be placing mine asap.
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they look sweet but 250 can get you so much more. the really nice freight backpacks run less than that. i'd rather have a freight.
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If you actually want a backpack and not a fashion accessory check out the cycling specific packs that deuter makes, they are top notch in practical design and function. And they are about $150 less than the silly bag in the OP.

http://www.deuterusa.com/products/hydration.php
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^^^^^^^^^
Word, I also have one of these and it is super comfortable, and has a really well designed ventilation system for your back, BUT mine (Futura 22) is sometimes lacking in space. It is however, a hiking bag and not one made for cycling specifically. Anyway, I would/am recommending them.
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^^^^^^^^^
Word, I also have one of these and it is super comfortable, and has a really well designed ventilation system for your back, BUT mine (Futura 22) is sometimes lacking in space. It is however, a hiking bag and not one made for cycling specifically. Anyway, I would/am recommending them.
I have a 25l TransAlpine, and there is tons of space in it. They also make a 30l TransAlpine if you really need to take a lot with you.
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I do like the idea of the mesh backs on Deuter, but having tried messenger backpacks and hiking backpacks like ArcTeryx for riding, I prefer the messenger ones. You can fit bulkier items when you need to (like groceries), but it lays flat when empty. It's more versatile to the way I would use it. Yeah, the sweaty back thing sucks, but it's a trade off.

And personally, I think messenger shoulder bags are the fashion accessory, not backpacks. Maybe backpacks will become cool when kids get back problems (like I've have, after riding with a courier bag for a few years).
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I do like the idea of the mesh backs on Deuter, but having tried messenger backpacks and hiking backpacks like ArcTeryx for riding, I prefer the messenger ones. You can fit bulkier items when you need to (like groceries), but it lays flat when empty. It's more versatile to the way I would use it. Yeah, the sweaty back thing sucks, but it's a trade off.

And personally, I think messenger shoulder bags are the fashion accessory, not backpacks. Maybe backpacks will become cool when kids get back problems (like I've have, after riding with a courier bag for a few years).
It's not just about a sweaty back, but overall comfort. ReLoad stuff is fashion first, function second. Who would pay $250 for a simple backpack if it wasn't a fashion item?

EDIT: The TransAlpine doesn't have a mesh back due to the fact that it is a large bag and most likely will carry heavy items and a mesh back would be uncomfortable. It uses the 'Air Stripes' system instead.
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I do like the idea of the mesh backs on Deuter, but having tried messenger backpacks and hiking backpacks like ArcTeryx for riding, I prefer the messenger ones. You can fit bulkier items when you need to (like groceries), but it lays flat when empty. It's more versatile to the way I would use it. Yeah, the sweaty back thing sucks, but it's a trade off.

And personally, I think messenger shoulder bags are the fashion accessory, not backpacks. Maybe backpacks will become cool when kids get back problems (like I've have, after riding with a courier bag for a few years).
If you want to do grocery run then you need some full size panniers. No sweaty back, no aching back, and you can fit way more than a messenger bag.
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i don't have one but i have to say 250 for that bag is insane. i paid 250 and got a custom chicago w.i.g bag that i could live in if need be. with the compression straps, the bag gets smaller and i have never said, ugg this bag is to big.

well when that day comes then you know what to do with it

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if you want to do grocery run then you need some full size panniers. No sweaty back, no aching back, and you can fit way more than a messenger bag.
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Panniers are great for carrying a lot, but I still like the versatility of a backpack. It's also easy to take inside a store with you. Panniers also change the responsiveness of the bike, in my experience (not to mention they won't fit my on my track frame).

So...anyone out there who's actually tried or seen the new Reload in person?
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The medium Freight costs almost as much - about $220 from King Kog last October and I think nearly the same at NYC Velo. The old price was less than $200. The Freight is a nice bag and I can carry as much if not more as my Oversized Pac (the step down from their largest bag). I got two friends to buy the Freight medium and another friend bought the large for traveling purposes and sold it to another friend who rides with it. The all love the bag and two went from the largest Pac and are still is able to fit all his stuff in the Freight. I was planning to buy a Freight around now but seeing the new Reload made me realize that I needed to see that bag first. The Freight has a removable back pad (so you can wash it or replace it). It looks like the Midpack one is part of the back of the bag. But it also looks like Reload has used some contoured padding to help with airflow so the bag isn't just sitting flat against one's back. That is a nice touch and not something I had noticed before. And the outer mesh pockets on the side dont' seem great but how much would one really put in there? A waterbottle, a multitool, things of that nature. The mesh would mean the pocket can't fill up with water in the downpour.

The fact that the waist strap does not come with the Midpack kinda sucks. Did you try it on with the waist strap? How much more is it with that strap?

To be honest, the $250 price tag isn't that crazy. So long as you aren't getting a detailed design on it, it probably falls almost in line with other really nice bags. I paid $200 + $25 shipping for my Pac in 2004. That was a sale price. The X strap and phone/radio holster should have been an additional $40-50 but she threw them in for free. The price of the bag went up both before Pat did some upgrades on the bag and before the US dollar tanked. So if people are still willing to drop $300 or so on a Pac, dropping $250 on the ReLoad Midpack seems reasonable, especially when taking into account the longer history of ReLoad over Freight.

How long ago did Trackstar have a Midpack in?
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Where did you see the contoured padding? It looks pretty flat to me, except for the stitched arrow.
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Is there any place online to get a Freight bag? Is that guy even still in making them? I've tried email and calling to no avail.
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Where did you see the contoured padding? It looks pretty flat to me, except for the stitched arrow.
I was hoping that arrow was contoured padding. Otherwise, it was just decrative stitching which I would have additionally hoped ReLoad would have avoided on the back of the bag.

The guy from Freight apparently is hard to contact. A friend went into NYC Velo and they placed the order for her. Im not sure if there is a price difference but it enabled the friend to pick the colors for her bag.
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