because then you add in things like class politics, race politics, sexual politics.

and their associated oppressions by various groups who hold power and who's interest it is to stay in power. to stay in power they will oppress those below them through any means posisble.

you get things like orientalism- identifying others by how different they are to you [eg: look at those savages etc.], essentialism- the idea that people are born not made [eg. when human nature is invoked in arguements], etc.

social constructs aren't specifically wrong if they aren't held up as the one and one right way of existing within a society.

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on kickstands: f your bike's in your house, why not just hang/lean it on the wall? and if it's in the street, why isn't it locked to something [and presumably leaning on the thing it's locked to]?

fssb
sparky

If a bike falls over in a deserted forest...does it make a sound?

it doesn't fall over, because the person who left it there leant it up against a tree.

fssb
sparky

cyclist tarot deck has the kickstand attributed to the card 'Hanged Man'
If you notice the bike on the ground was used as a ladder to get the hight needed to get the noose around his neck then 'kick the stand' out from under himself.
This cards meaning:
Solitude to gain perspective, stand back and rethink actions, sacrifice.
? time to let the past go my friend, free your stand, free yourself.

Only on Saturday nights.

If a bike falls over in the desert, does it make a sound?







Yes, only when someone steps on the spokes. Which happened at Burning Man a few years ago to my friend's kickstand-less bike. FU'd the wheel.

Commuter, Utility, Around towners -- yay to kickstands, optional

Racers, Off-road MTB'ers -- nay to kickstands, no way

I don't think they're lame. Maybe not "cool" but not lame. I'm gonna.

William Karsten - yup you're cool too. my mom's cool-dar has a pretty low threshold.



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Originally Posted by stickerguy
kickstands or not, my mom say i'm cool. jeff

Hey Jeff,

Can you ask her if I'm cool to? I'd like to know.

Thanks!

She still letting you have the sleep over this weekend?

As far as a kickstand being practical, when is the last time you were inclined to stand your bike up in the middle of the sidewalk or where ever? I usually lean it against whatever I am locking up to..

-Jason

All the time.

I perfer skorts.

So do I. But really, only on women.

Men.. well, you know.

I especially like ones with pockets for my sporks

kickstands are lamo! and the next time I see anyone in Chicago, in the middle of a sidwalk, or street, or anywhere where it is in someone's way and its proppped up on a kickstand, Im gonna kick it over!

hehehe...

randy