Soda can shim for 25.4mm riser bars
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Soda can shim for 25.4mm riser bars
How safe is it? Anyone with experience? Should I just cough up the money for a real shim? Thanks.
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if you're mounting them on a 26.0 stem you probably don't even need it. I switch between risers and drops all the time without the need for a shim. if you need one, just buy one they're really cheap.
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It is obvious that you should only use aircraft grade aluminum for shims. If you insist on using soda cans, flatten the material between two granite surfacing plates and use #1000 grit to make sure it is consistant across both directions (the cold drawing process of constructing cans can lead to irregularity in thickness). Following that an anneal and quench cycle will relieve any latent stress. Once you have that done make sure to round the edges to remove any possible stress risers. And finally, prepare a steel mandrel 0.008" in diameter less than the bars to bend the shim around. If you bend around the bar, the material will naturally spring open a bit larger. DO NOT bend with your fingers.
Powder coating the shim while attractive is a BAD idea as it changes the coefficient of friction and totally f's up the hard work you have done dimensioning the shim.
Powder coating the shim while attractive is a BAD idea as it changes the coefficient of friction and totally f's up the hard work you have done dimensioning the shim.
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^ lol ridiculous' technical description of how to create a shim from a soda can
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I use diet soda cans for the weight savings.
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The most important question we all should ask is: "What type of stem do you have?" With a traditional single bolt stem, you are in much more dangerous territory than a multiple-bolt with a removable pinch plate.
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I dont but my friends that I know have in the past. One time while testing out someone elses bike the handlebars slipped forward pretty drastically. Luckily I wasnt going very fast. I assume it was just his shoddy job. I personally am currently riding a jammed 26.0mm bar into a 25.4 stem, so what do I know.
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I just did this. My stem has a cutout on the mounting plate, so a little bit of BudLight logo shines through.
There is nothing dangerous about it. At the worse, your bars come lose and spin a little, then you tighten them back up, or put more shim. Or you minutely bend your bars, or stem.. whichever is weaker.
There is nothing dangerous about it. At the worse, your bars come lose and spin a little, then you tighten them back up, or put more shim. Or you minutely bend your bars, or stem.. whichever is weaker.
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Funny. I just asked the same question about shimming on another forum. The recommendation was shims made from a soda/beer can.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/467283-rigging-shim-cinelli-bar-stem.html
I did it tonight and then cranked down on the bars with gorilla strength. It's pretty solid. Hopefully I won't lose my denture.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/467283-rigging-shim-cinelli-bar-stem.html
I did it tonight and then cranked down on the bars with gorilla strength. It's pretty solid. Hopefully I won't lose my denture.
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It is obvious that you should only use aircraft grade aluminum for shims. If you insist on using soda cans, flatten the material between two granite surfacing plates and use #1000 grit to make sure it is consistant across both directions (the cold drawing process of constructing cans can lead to irregularity in thickness). Following that an anneal and quench cycle will relieve any latent stress. Once you have that done make sure to round the edges to remove any possible stress risers. And finally, prepare a steel mandrel 0.008" in diameter less than the bars to bend the shim around. If you bend around the bar, the material will naturally spring open a bit larger. DO NOT bend with your fingers.
Powder coating the shim while attractive is a BAD idea as it changes the coefficient of friction and totally f's up the hard work you have done dimensioning the shim.
Powder coating the shim while attractive is a BAD idea as it changes the coefficient of friction and totally f's up the hard work you have done dimensioning the shim.
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Anyway, he is the one who put most of the effort into developing the shimming process. When the 70's came along and aluminum cans were everywhere, everyone else jumped on the bandwagon and did it themselves. Some just cut the shims with no prep and were horribly disfigured. Some blinked and you know all about not blinking. It crushed him and he complained bitterly about the loss of the craft to anyone who would listen. As long as he was buying the cinzano I listened. There are a lot more of his secrets which died with him because they took too long to explain and he was already incoherent by the time he got to the critical point - elliptical bearings was one of them which still cause my thorax to constrict when I think about the loss.
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Tell us more about the elliptical bearings! More!
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The elliptical bearing saga is a long one. I mentioned the desmodromic cranks, well, elliptical bearings were Giuseppe's follow-up. The thinking was that with a synchronized set of elliptical bearings the effective crank length could be varied through out the powerstroke and thus could provide a way of adjusting the gear ratio, or at least that seems like what he was trying to get to. The trouble was that he wouldn't let this secret go until he was deep into the bottle. I tried different ways to pry it out of him which did not involve intoxication, but my spy just reported that he cried out "mamma" at the critical moment - a far cry from the free-body diagram I was expecting. She was rather expensive too, so I just kept pouring and hoping that our discussion of eggs, pears and other oblong objects (of which my spy possessed two excellent examples) would stimulate discussion. It rarely did. And he died before I had a complete understanding.
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I do recall Dr. Giuseppe's departure when the Desmodromic engineering process and units were sold to Caviga in 1985. It was a sad day, with industry prophets crying that the new company would kill the Ducati name, replacing it with something like "Trumph" or "Triumph," or some ridiculous badge like that, a made-in-the-Phillipines product mostly comprised of cheap Chromoly and plastic. If my memory serves me well, I remember reading that Giuseppe disappeared for a 28 months and many at that time theorized that he suffered progressive Alzheimer's for sucking on too much aluminum, and had one day walked aimlessly to Afghanistan and started a club called the Talibo or Taloban, so something like that. But, thank goodness that this was just a misinformation because it was his brother Alfonso.
I believe that it was soon after that Giuseppe introduced elliptical bearings. Which was later purchased by an actual company called Triumph and shipped to their factories in the Phillipines.
I believe that it was soon after that Giuseppe introduced elliptical bearings. Which was later purchased by an actual company called Triumph and shipped to their factories in the Phillipines.
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Now that just sounds like horse****.