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MIN 09-19-08 06:24 PM

What do you think about pursuit frames on the streets?
 
Looking for feedback from owners.

Gambutrol 09-19-08 06:55 PM

my friend got one a few weeks ago; it looks totally awesome. he still says that it is terrifying to ride it. I hopped on once and I have to agree. Skidding it just a ton harder and there's pretty much only the one super-aero position.

If you're looking for a hot ride to get on a few times a wekk, i'd say go for it. If you want it as a commuter or a real practical ride, look elsewhere.

ps- is there a specific frame you are looking at??

Jabba Degrassi 09-19-08 06:55 PM

I think they're ****ing stu- oh wait owners, nevermind...

MIN 09-19-08 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Gambutrol (Post 7505471)
my friend got one a few weeks ago; it looks totally awesome. he still says that it is terrifying to ride it. I hopped on once and I have to agree. Skidding it just a ton harder and there's pretty much only the one super-aero position.

If you're looking for a hot ride to get on a few times a wekk, i'd say go for it. If you want it as a commuter or a real practical ride, look elsewhere.

ps- is there a specific frame you are looking at??

brooklin's affinity frame.


btw, why would skidding be harder?

NewYorkMantle 09-19-08 07:24 PM

the affinity marta is pretty cool looking, but way too aggro for my taste. for some reason, every single one i've seen on the street has looked like tarck trash though. my friend caesar is the only one i know who has a really nice and clean looking marta build. - i'm a really big fan of the steel '99 aerotrack; there are only 2 of them that i've ever seen on a regular basis.

andre nickatina 09-19-08 07:26 PM

The Affinity is luckily not as crazy as some pursuit frames... it atleast looks somewhat rideable if you want to go farther than 10 miles.

Some of the old pursuit stuff being ridden on the street is just dumb though. I rode a friend's once and it was nothing I'd like to do again.

jitensha! 09-19-08 07:51 PM

the affinity is not a pursuit frame. it's a low-profile sprint(ish) frame. pursuit frames have more roadish angles and slightly lower bottom brackets since they were made for riding lower on the track. not all forward-sloping top tube frames are pursuit frames.

edit: i guess i should answer the OP's question. i don't see a problem with riding a low-profile frame on the street. just set it up appropriately. if you feel the need to put a Nitto Technomic and riser bars on there, you should look into a more conventional frame.

MIN 09-19-08 07:59 PM

what is the advantage of the forward tt slope on the affinity when the angles work out to be not "pure pursuit?" aesthetics couldn't have been the only consideration.

but you guys are right, the affinity is not a clown bike like many race-bred pursuit 650c bikes.

Gambutrol 09-19-08 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by MIN (Post 7505481)


btw, why would skidding be harder?

He was one that is super aggressive with a 650c front wheel- if you lean forward at all it feels like your face is going right into the pavement. Maybe that isn't so much the case on an Affinity bike.

btw- who makes the Affinities? Are they made in shop or are they another Taiwan job? Are they Tig welded or Lugged? I can't find very many high res pics on the web.

editted for grammars

c0urt 09-19-08 08:57 PM

I used to own a fixed time trial bike and I loved it. It accelerated like a beast. and was about 6 inches shorter than my current bike. was a bit twitchy but I got used to it

delicious 09-19-08 09:06 PM

not a "pursuit" bike, but i've been riding an old geared time trial bike built for a 650 front wheel for a couple weeks now and love it.

jitensha! 09-19-08 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by MIN (Post 7505807)
what is the advantage of the forward tt slope on the affinity when the angles work out to be not "pure pursuit?" aesthetics couldn't have been the only consideration.

but you guys are right, the affinity is not a clown bike like many race-bred pursuit 650c bikes.

well, originally it was to get the rider lower on the bike for a more aerodynamic position, hence the usage of smaller front wheels for a low riding position. i've seen a couple of 3renshos built for non-japanese keirin riders designed that way w/dual 700's. the affinity is mostly for looks. it'd probably make a halfway decent pure track racing frame, tho.

fluidworks 09-19-08 10:15 PM

A buddy of mine has an Affinity. It's fun to squirt around on short distances, but absolute ass for any sort of distance. The hipster risers certainly don't help either.

c0urt 09-19-08 11:31 PM

I want to find another tt frame with dual 650c's, but finding a steel one is probably going to be hard

jdms mvp 09-19-08 11:35 PM

depends on what frame imho. i've seen some work fine with proper forks (650) and such. some just look painful to try and use on the street...

vobopl 09-19-08 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by c0urt (Post 7506779)
I want to find another tt frame with dual 650c's, but finding a steel one is probably going to be hard

how about a Ti one? Got Wheeler T1 for $60 :D

sleepy 09-20-08 03:45 AM

Pursuit frames make for awesome touring bikes. You can bust a century, no problem, just tuck your head, and avoid the wind, makes it aerodynamic for climbing hills too! I seen cats hang panniers over the 26 inch wheels, lower Q factor makes it easier to hop curbs.
Great long distance geometry!

abeyance23 09-20-08 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by vobopl (Post 7506796)
how about a Ti one? Got Wheeler T1 for $60 :D

and I thought i got a deal with mine, frame/fork for 190 shipped. congrats.

vobopl 09-20-08 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by abeyance23 (Post 7508125)
and I thought i got a deal with mine, frame/fork for 190 shipped. congrats.

Are they that bad? I intended to build it up into something nice :eek:

dylandom 09-20-08 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by c0urt (Post 7506779)
I want to find another tt frame with dual 650c's, but finding a steel one is probably going to be hard

fritz at continuum cycles is selling a sick pino. that takes 650s. its insane

ceaser, the guy that is one year away from being a plastic surgeon yet still manages to have time to be a bike messenger. Please.

NewYorkMantle 09-20-08 05:55 PM

^^ lol what dylan, don't like him or don't like his bike?

bkbldr 09-20-08 06:53 PM

If your going to ride a pursuit/TT frame on the street it should probably be set up like this.

http://velospace.org/files/DSCN0086_copy.jpg

http://velospace.org/files/1Pinarello.jpg

http://velospace.org/files/funny1.jpg

MIN 09-20-08 07:09 PM

:grabs crotch in imagined pain:

bkbldr 09-20-08 08:58 PM

The white one is mine...

If you are going to do it put some gears on it... or at least a freewheel and some brakes


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