skidding is the whole reason why i have a fixed gear, this is an OUTRAGE!!!!

:lol:

seriously, get a beach cruiser and gtfo(kidding)

well considering that some velodromes offer the pista as a loner bike for the day...i wouldn't be surprised....the ONLY requirements for bikes at some of the open days are drops and rear facing dropouts....

Would you like to join me Saturday for the accelerated class at ADT in carson? Or next Wednesday at Encino?

exactly. if bianchi pistas, schwinn madisons, fuji tracks (non pro = windsor the hour) are all out there, why wouldn't a Mercier Kilo TT?

here's an idea: rotate your wheel weekly. 52 skid patches for free

http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ils&ProdID=568

$24 + free shipping surly cog?

u can find new eai deluxe cogs for 20 used or 25 new all day on xxfixed.com also

your in the same stupid boat as the OP.

how can a bike company cater to what everyone wants. so should companies start offering stock ratios at 44/19 for those skids? or should they assume that you are a track racer and offer the 52/14 ratio?

this comment + the one about kilo TTs not being at the 'drome.... :rolleyes:

isn't the 48x16 gearing on the kilo a little tough though? nearly 80 gear inches right?

Starter track gear on a starter track bike.

You guys need to find something else to complain about.

i'm not complaining i'm just asking

The post was more to point out how odd that the standard gearing is 16tx48t for the kilo specifically, considering the target audience for the bike is for people who mainly ride street. Less of a post saying that the gearing is wrong or has too high gear inches. Especially, considering how bikesdirect does a thorough job in asking its customers what they should have on the bikes they put out.

jmio - i don't skid everywhere and don't care so much to go out of my way to calculate it. There is a thread that is stickied at the top of this forum that has a table that shows the # of skid patches to what gearing you have....

thetank - I am a cheapskate!

daybreak - I believe It was common sense that lead me to realize how odd the gearing is for a bike that is targeted to riders that do a lot of street riding.

entry track bike, being the standard gearing etc. are good points, but how many of us ride on the street everyday as well? I ride on the street A LOT more than I would a velodrome.

anyways some good replies

my bad, thought you went outta your way to find info out. just thought it was a little weird that's all.

What's wrong with that gearing? It's a pretty typical setup for someone who encounters rollings hills and rides their bike longer than 10 or 15 miles.

***** ***** *****. I love/hate bfssfg.

um, that's supposed to say '*****'.

1.) I still think that the 48x16 gearing is stupid hard for an entry level fixed bike no matter what brand it is, when it is going to be ridden on city streets by 98% of the people who buy it. Easy to get a new cog, sure, but still.

2.) I know that everybody on this forum completely loves the Kilo TT. It has a good price/quality ratio, if you keep in mind that it's a cheap bike with cheap parts. Quality? It's a relative concept, obviously. People should stop pretending that it's a real track bike when it's not, even if it has "real track geometry", no fender/bottlebosses and comes with drop bars. The link above to the Track Racing sub forum only proves my point.

I don't think anyone is pretending. It is an entry level track bike just as a bianchi pista, flite 100, fuji track, or schwinn madison, which are all found as rental bikes and have the same junky components when stock. If you go to the track, usually these lower end bikes are the norm. Never has anyone gone and seen a Nagasawa or Corima Cougar as a rental bike. They are always low level entry level track bikes.

Are they a Dolan Arc DF3 carbon race bike with a Mavic Comete wheelset? Hell no. But it does fit in the bottom of the bucket entry level track bikes category, regardless of what most people buy it for. The only place I have ever heard of with nice(r) rentals was ADT who has Felt TK2 for rent, but if you have ever bothered stepping into that facility, you'll see that their monetary budget is way higher then most velodromes.

Your assumption is kinda like saying "well most people who have a Bianchi Pista Concept never go to the track so why don't they take off the 48x16 since most people will just be using it to
-make into a tarck bike and tricks
-do skids (oh my god only 1 skid patch)
-add risers
-add other items such as top tube pads, bandanas and aero spokes....."
....since thats what many people with them do. (browse velospace)

Complaining about having to buy a cog is a moot point, because even if it came with 48x17, it would be a sh*tty stamped 17T cog you would have to change out anyway, thus requiring the purchase of a decent cog, regardless of teeth.

Everyone I know who rides a fized gear has a few sprockets anyway.

When I raced BMX for years, most complete BMX bikes came with 44x16. It was just a standard that the industry adhered to. How can you honestly know what gearing is gonna be best for most people? Thats absurd.

Just do a search for any of the gear preference posts. People post all kind of different ratios depending on riding style and where they live. I know a few folks who started on 48x16 and just kept it.

Why do they put those sh*tty Kenda tires on it that have to be upgraded?

Why don't they put a more comfortable seat on the bike from the start?

It's a 350 dollar bike. Resist from spending money on bullsh*t for one week and buy a cog.

brother I'm a budget fixed gear rider as well but when it comes to chainrings, cog & lockring I always shell out the bucks for the good stuff.

don't try to get around the word filters. (jdms mvp and triplesixer). verbal warning - infraction next time.

+1

do not complain to the Manuf. about skid patches.....
do not complain to the cop about the light you just ran.....
fixed riders don't complain-- Companys that mass produce know nothing about street riding--
they are trying to accomodate the market-- keep them guessing for their money.... and
keep your mouth quiet.... be a snob-- the smartest snob on the block-- let the spandex riders whine about their crp..................................................

48/16 is really tough for vegetarian/girl-panted/post-emo/American Apparel kids. Why doesn't BD understand their market and put out a bunch of bikes with cyclocross gearing and coaster brakes?

Oh, and by the way, skids are for kids. Real men carry a length of 2x4 and jam it in their spokes when they want to stop.

bf

You know there are a whole lot of FG riders who wear spandex, right?

Also, there are messengers in West LA? I'm honestly curious, since I use to visit LA a lot and never seen one.