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Velomancer 10-08-08 07:57 PM

Quick release on a fixed or SS rear, yes or no?
 
What are the pros and cons of using a quick release on a fixed gear or single speed rear wheel? I have a QR on my front wheel as I drive everywhere with a bike in the car on on a roof rack. Putting a QR on the back would make things a lot easier but is it safe?

solbrothers 10-08-08 08:15 PM

easier to steal. but if you have it tight you should be alright. or, if you are scared, get a tensioner.

solbrothers 10-08-08 08:15 PM

"get a tensioner" assumining you have track *rear* dropouts

wearyourtruth 10-08-08 09:01 PM

i'm not sure they make QR wheels with fixed cog threading. probably for good reason! i ran a SS with QR on a horizontal dropout and it always slipped a little... there just wasn't enough to get it tight, so the chain always went slack. with a tensioner, i suppose SS would be okay.

trons 10-08-08 09:18 PM

the general consensus is enclosed cam is ok, exposed cam is no good (http://sheldonbrown.com/skewers.html)

TempeRider 10-08-08 09:23 PM

Quick release is fine. Most older road bikes (and some new ones like mine) have horizontal drop outs and quick release. If it was a problem it wouldn't work there. Its no different for a track bike. In fact, I run a fixed wheel with QR on my road bike at times and it works fine as long as it is tight. Just like my geared wheel.

Velomancer 10-08-08 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by solbrothers (Post 7629381)
easier to steal. but if you have it tight you should be alright. or, if you are scared, get a tensioner.

I'm not worried about theft... I never leave my bike chained up anywhere.

How does a tensioner help?

huerro 10-08-08 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by wearyourtruth (Post 7629653)
i'm not sure they make QR wheels with fixed cog threading. probably for good reason! i ran a SS with QR on a horizontal dropout and it always slipped a little... there just wasn't enough to get it tight, so the chain always went slack. with a tensioner, i suppose SS would be okay.

I had a Van Dessel wheel set that used a QR or axle bolts. Worked fine both ways.

http://www.vandesselsports.com/vstuff.html

JackD 10-08-08 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by Velomancer (Post 7629272)
What are the pros and cons of using a quick release on a fixed gear or single speed rear wheel? I have a QR on my front wheel as I drive everywhere with a bike in the car on on a roof rack. Putting a QR on the back would make things a lot easier but is it safe?

QR is "safe" if you do it right and quick to change, but a bit more difficult to tension the chain. In my experience though, the back wheel is removed much much less often than the front so why bother?

TheSodaJerk 10-08-08 10:11 PM

I dont know how many quick release tires I see every day at school that are locked up wrong. Im tempted to pull off their back tire and flip it around just to show them the error in their ways, but I dont want some person coming up to me and thinking I am a bike thief.

Dannihilator 10-08-08 10:34 PM

Quick release tires are something to be afraid of.

solbrothers 10-08-08 10:35 PM

id be afraid of usiing one on the back because on a fixed gear bike, there is so much force on that rear tire, whether it be the accelerating, or the decelerating/skidding

TheSodaJerk 10-08-08 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Dannihilator (Post 7630143)
Quick release tires are something to be afraid of.

I can understand the sentiment on brakeless fixed gear bikes, but other than that I dont really see the issue. I have put tons of miles on QR tires and never even had em slip.

JackD 10-08-08 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by solbrothers (Post 7630151)
id be afraid of usiing one on the back because on a fixed gear bike, there is so much force on that rear tire, whether it be the accelerating, or the decelerating/skidding

You can't generate nearly as much force on a fg with say 48/16 gearing as you can with 22/32 on a MTB and qr are used on those bikes all the time. Skidding force is generally the same on any bike and is limited by how much force the tire can handle before it skids.

huerro 10-08-08 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by TheSodaJerk (Post 7630199)
I can understand the sentiment on brakeless fixed gear bikes, but other than that I dont really see the issue. I have put tons of miles on QR tires and never even had em slip.

http://visual.merriam-webster.com/im...ts-bicycle.jpg

TheSodaJerk 10-08-08 11:01 PM

Are you calling me out about the use of the word "tire" huerro? Because its really a semantics issue, everyone in here knows what we are talking about.

Velomancer 10-08-08 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by Dannihilator (Post 7630143)
Quick release tires are something to be afraid of.

What are quick release tires**********

Dannihilator 10-08-08 11:12 PM

No such thing. Was just pointing something out.

huerro 10-08-08 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by Dannihilator (Post 7630309)
No such thing. Was just pointing something out.

That's what you get for being subtle.

Dannihilator 10-08-08 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by huerro (Post 7630310)
That's what you get for being subtle.

Very much true.

tFUnK 10-09-08 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by trons (Post 7629738)
the general consensus is enclosed cam is ok, exposed cam is no good (http://sheldonbrown.com/skewers.html)

it may work for some, but it certainly doesn't work for everyone.

i had a qr ss setup a while back and it was slipping occasionally (yes, it was enclosed cam, and it was clamped on tight). i even put some crown/serrated washers between the qr and the dropout surfaces and that worked out much better, but still was not perfect. maybe it was the relatively high gear inches i was running at the time but inevitably, under heavy load, the rear would slip. switched to a solid axle and never a problem since.

shecky 10-09-08 01:20 AM

I just made up a fixed wheel from a former freehub with a QR. I'd prefer a conventional axle, but I didn't have any around to swap. It's been on a couple weeks, and it's holding up fine, fully secure. This on an old mtb frame with horizontal dropouts. Tensioning the chain and centering the wheel is a little tricky compared with a bolt on hub. I found the task to be easier if I use an old broom handle as a lever between the tire and bottom bracket/chainstays to tension the tire while closing the QR.

the_don 10-09-08 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by Velomancer (Post 7630273)
What are quick release tires**********

He could be Japanese. In Japanese, they call wheels, tires.

although pro bike shops will say wheels...

Anyways, why start some frackus over a sematic error?

Velomancer 10-09-08 05:38 AM

I wasn't being facetious... I thought there may be some new tire the didn't need levers that I'd missed.

G piny parnas 10-09-08 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Velomancer (Post 7629272)
What are the pros and cons of using a quick release on a fixed gear or single speed rear wheel? I have a QR on my front wheel as I drive everywhere with a bike in the car on on a roof rack. Putting a QR on the back would make things a lot easier but is it safe?

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