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CXP 22 rim vs Open Sport rim

Old 10-10-08, 04:38 PM
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CXP 22 rim vs Open Sport rim

I can get either CXP 22 and Open Sport for the same price (Actually the CXP 22s are 5 bucks more for two).

https://www.mavic.com/road/products/CXP-22.995216.aspx
https://www.mavic.com/road/products/o....323975.2.aspx

I'm not exactly sure which to get. They are both very similar, other than one being classic and one being aero. Help me out.

(These will be built with SS spokes, formula hubs)
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Old 10-10-08, 09:21 PM
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cxp 22 is a bit deeper, but its somewhat minimal, but still there. also i think cxp 22's are a bit newer a design so maybe they use some of that mavic fancyass acronym stuff that nobody really gives a dam about. the open sports are lighter by 20 grams a rim but thats just cause they have a lower profile- nobody should worry about this. id go with cxp's, my good friend has them on formula hubs and they work fine- nothing fancy, but solid city wheels. if its more than 5 extra a rim for cxp22's get the cheaper of the two, no difference will be noticed
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Old 10-10-08, 09:43 PM
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I'd go for the CXP 22s. those eyelets look nice.
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Old 10-10-08, 10:34 PM
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It's actually $2.50 more per rim.
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Old 10-10-08, 11:11 PM
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OP's are classy
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Old 10-11-08, 07:43 AM
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the open sport is more of an entry level rim. it isn't eyeletted, and that is where most of the weight is saved over the cxp-22. (neither of these rims are welded, just pinned.)

the OPEN PRO is the rim everyone and their mom rave about (box section, eyeletted, welded seam, and pretty damn light).

with that said, i just ordered a set of cxp-22's w/ formula hubs and DT spokes for a little over $150 shipped (in silver.)

I am a huge mavic fan, i have had the cxp-33 on my road bike for about 1500 miles now and still haven't had to true them. and the roads around here suck. (the cxp-33 is the 22's big brother, with a more aero shape (still doesn't make a difference), welded seams, and eyeletting. they are up there with deep v's in strength when built right, but not as deep.
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Old 10-11-08, 08:45 AM
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Yeah +1 to ^^.

I ride CXP-23's on my road bike and have really haven't had to majorly true them yet, and yes the roads suck around here.

That said, what about the open pro's? Why are they better?
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Old 10-11-08, 09:09 AM
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for what it's worth, mavic's listed weights for the rims under discussion are— OP, 435g; CXP33, 470g; CXP22, 510g. while this weight difference is at the most perceptible location on your bike, the 80g between the OP and the CXP22 is the difference between conti's GP Supersonic and the Gatorskin. Or the difference between straight-gauge DT Competition and DB Revolution spokes.

this is not to say that it's an insignificant weight difference, but to get you thinking about things other than weight, since choosing one tyre over another will have the same weight savings at the same (from an angular momentum perspective) point on the bike. Velocity Deep Vs weigh in at 580g or something, just for comparison's sake.

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Old 10-11-08, 09:18 AM
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I had an open sport on the rear wheel of my road bike, and a cxp22 on the front. The cxp22 was great, but the open sport came out of true alot. My lbs exchanged the whole wheelset because I wasent the only one having that problem. I'd go with the cxp22.

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Old 10-11-08, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by malpag3 View Post
That said, what about the open pro's? Why are they better?
They aren't.

This is the one rim everyone think is the **** but it isn't. Just because everyone keeps repeating that it's a super uber rim doesn't actually make it so. The open sport, which is the rim the OP actually mentioned, is a piece of crap.

If it's between that and the cxp 22, go for the cxp 22.
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Old 10-11-08, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by chase. View Post
this is not to say that it's an insignificant weight difference, but to get you thinking about things other than weight, since choosing one tyre over another will have the same weight savings at the same (from an angular momentum perspective) point on the bike. Velocity Deep Vs weigh in at 580g or something, just for comparison's sake.
Except that spokes aren't taped to the outside of the rim. Which means it's not really similar to the same weight placed on the circumference of the wheel.
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Old 10-11-08, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by droptop View Post
the OPEN PRO is the rim everyone and their mom rave about (box section, eyeletted, welded seam, and pretty damn light).
Because they don't know any better and like to repeat what others tell them.

Box section = weak
Eyeletted = only necessary because of box section
Welded seam = doesn't matter
Lightness = you pay for it in aerodynamics and strength, not carbon

That being said, the open pro is one of the last bastions of box rims. Nearly every rim manufacturer has gone to semi-aero or completely aero.
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Old 10-11-08, 10:18 AM
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i got cxp22, these are heavy rims!
 
Old 10-11-08, 03:30 PM
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I would submit that the biggest factor is strength is the build.

My road racing bikes has Mavic Open Pro rims. Save for cutting a few spokes do to an over shift into the spokes both (handbuilt) wheels would be perfect still after 2000 miles. After replacing the drive side spokes, it is still solid and true after another 500 miles.

My touring bike has older Mavic MA-2 rims (predesesor to the "junk" open sport??). It has 10,000 miles on it - mostly commuting with 10 pounds over the rear, but also 1000 miles with 60 pounds of full load touring gear. Still solid.

If you hand build or hand finish your wheels even cheap rims are solid.
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Old 10-11-08, 04:05 PM
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Open Sports ARE eyeletted.
Also, I don't know what SS spokes are, but if you're going to the trouble and expense to have handbuilt wheels (over, say the formula/CXP22s that are ridiculously cheap) you should really get butted spokes.
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Originally Posted by sneaky viking View Post
Also, I don't know what SS spokes are, but if you're going to the trouble and expense to have handbuilt wheels (over, say the formula/CXP22s that are ridiculously cheap) you should really get butted spokes.
He means Stainless Steel, which, I think, most spokes are these days. +1 to double butted spokes.
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Originally Posted by ddac View Post
Where did you get this deal? I'm looking for some new wheels. How is your chainline with these wheels/hubs?
I just ordered a set of the cxp22/formula wheels from bicyclewheelwarehouse.com. $159 shipped.

https://www.bicyclewheelwarehouse.com...d&productId=50
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I've got CXP22's.

They're awesome, modest wheels that hold up to non-ideal streets. They're not heavy.
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According to the weights Mavic and Velocity give on their sites, the CXP 22 is only 10g lighter than the Deep V, 520g for the Deep V and 510g for the CXP22. I'm surprised, I thought the Mavics would be a bit lighter than that.
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Get the CXP-22's. With a handbuild, they'll be bombproof. And with the slight aero profile, you can put a strip of Scotch-lite tape on the rim for aero, non-rattling reflectors.
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i have the cxp-22's and like them a lot. the roads around here are really rough and i haven't had any issues. ive run over some gnarly pot holes and am generally riding through patched road as well. the cxp-22's + gatorskins and you've got indestructible wheels.
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Originally Posted by operator View Post
They aren't.

This is the one rim everyone think is the **** but it isn't. Just because everyone keeps repeating that it's a super uber rim doesn't actually make it so. The open sport, which is the rim the OP actually mentioned, is a piece of crap.

If it's between that and the cxp 22, go for the cxp 22.
+1

Mavics are good rims, but their reputation is severely overinflated. You can get better rims for less money. For good lightweight rims, Kinlin, are really the new standard by which everything else should be judged, not Mavic. If you want the best bang for you buck, you can't beat Alex DA28s.
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How about Velocity Aeroheads?
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Old 10-05-09, 07:21 PM
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dt swiss 1.1 single's, something like 415 grams and very comparable in price too
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