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Old 10-25-08, 01:41 PM
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Busted Brand New Wheels?

Hey everyone, hope bris doesnt see this becuase I think Im a few posts shy of his arbitrary 45 posts to start a new thread or whatever.

Anyways, I just built up my first conversion. I bought some CPX-22/Formula's and a pair of Continental Ultrasports (700x23). Road around for a few days just fine then while riding one night I hit a small pothole, Im talkin 1/2-3/4" deep (max) and less than 2" across. Heard a big ping and saw my front wheel flash, stopped and I had busted a spoke. Im assuming it must have been over tensioned and as such the small deformation in the road was too much for it. It seems like a wheel should be able to handle minor surface flaws. Can anyone back me up on this hypothesis? Or does it sound like I should just avoid these situations like the plague?

I would buy the spoke and true it up myself, but its been so long since I trued a wheel I dont think I could by myself. I figured I would take it into my local LBS and have them check the rest of the spoke tension just in case any of the rest of them so this doesnt happen again. Whats this usually run people? Im assuming ~$50-$60?

Also: I busted my old tire levers fixing flats on the back, anyone know a good pair of levers for this tire/rim combo? Its a really tight fit and my old levers just couldnt hack it.

EDIT: Got the wheels on BicycleWheelWarehouse aside from this spoke problem cant really speak ill of them.
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Crappy wheel build.
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Old 10-25-08, 02:14 PM
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Yes, the wheel should have been able to withstand that minor hit. Spokes are either too tight or too loose. I'd take it into the local shop and get it checked out. For a spoke replacement and check of tensioning, $50 sounds a bit steep to me. For spoke replacement/tensioning and truing you're likely looking closer to $20-$30. The Park TL-5 levers are really nice to use. I generally just buy new nylon levers and try to be more careful as the TL-5s are pretty huge to cart around. I had a pair of Conti contacts that liked to eat tire levers too. I got rid of them pretty much for that reason.

I've never bought wheels online because I prefer to have them built by someone I know if I'm not going to do it. The price difference is worth it for my piece of mind.
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Originally Posted by dobber View Post
Crappy wheel build.
If we believe what the OP says. Along with I all the "I was just riding along and XYZ". That's what you get for buying cheap machine built wheels.

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Old 10-25-08, 02:43 PM
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Yea, sorry I work for minimum wage between classes and cant afford $300 wheelsets.
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should call around your local lbs to check how much it would cost, there's a place near me that would do it for $5 for truing + spoke
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Old 10-25-08, 04:16 PM
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Yeah, I don't think it's the fact that you didn't spend enough money on a wheelset. You just didn't spend the time to take it to a shop and make sure the spokes were tensioned right.

Trust me, I'm a part time working college student, and I fully understand your decision to buy cheaper wheels. It's just that whenever you get a machine assembled wheel, you gotta be careful. If I got them, I would have at least shown in to my mechanic friend.

Don't let anyone tell you that your equipment sucks if it isn't expensive or top of the line. It's all about maintenance. Sometimes when it is cheaper however, you need to spend some more time on it.
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The shops here charge between $10-$25 depending on how bad the wheel is. I would call the place you bought them from, describe the situation & see if they want to keep you as a customer.
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yeah 10-25 bucks sounds about right.

though i reckon learning yourself would be a good thing, its not as if you're rebuilding the wheel.
if the wheel was machine built (not hand), there is a likelihood that some of the spokes have been over tensioned which could result in the break.
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If you break a spoke, the wheel is under-tensioned. If you break a hub, the wheel is over-tensioned.
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Originally Posted by dmg View Post
If you break a spoke, the wheel is under-tensioned. If you break a hub, the wheel is over-tensioned.
And if you break the rim, you just got hit by a car.
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And if you break the car, you're riding a Schwinn Varsity conversion.
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Some of us understand what it means to live on a smaller budget than most but sometimes what is cheap ends up costing you more.

Also could everyone stop saying "Local LBS" The "L" in "LBS" stands for local.
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Originally Posted by Thetank View Post
Some of us understand what it means to live on a smaller budget than most but sometimes what is cheap ends up costing you more.

Also could everyone stop saying "Local LBS" The "L" in "LBS" stands for local.
I've actually started saying Local LBS Shop just to piss people like you off.
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Originally Posted by crushkilldstroy View Post
And if you break the car, you're riding a Schwinn Varsity conversion.
epic!
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Originally Posted by Jabba Degrassi View Post
I've actually started saying Local LBS Shop just to piss people like you off.
Well thats clever?
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Originally Posted by dmg View Post
If you break a spoke, the wheel is under-tensioned. If you break a hub, the wheel is over-tensioned.
This is interesting, Im going to have to remember that.

Is it normal to not get any pings with a new wheelset? Because before the spoke blew out I hadnt gotten any like I hear a lot of people talk about.
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Originally Posted by TheSodaJerk View Post
This is interesting, Im going to have to remember that.

Is it normal to not get any pings with a new wheelset? Because before the spoke blew out I hadnt gotten any like I hear a lot of people talk about.
My wheels have never pinged. I've also hit some big potholes with them at high speed and not had a problem. They're cheap ass Alex 500s or something like that. The difference as mentioned by others is that mine were built properly by the bike shop, so they havent given me trouble
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