trueno92

looking for a pursuit/bullhorn bar.. as much as this is a contridiction.. I won't be pursuiting...looking for a comfortable bar that isn't massive and not that mini bar..

wondering if the slopes are an advantage on these:



vs the longer flats on these..

twelsch42

I have something close to the lower picture, without quite as much drop. I prefer more riding positions so more flat means easier to ride the flats... Also when you're aero/gripping the ends of the bars, your elbow/upper forearm are more likely to 'hit' or rest on the tighter radius of the lower version. I think I have nitto RB-009 and they're prefect for me.

trueno92

thanks for the informative reply.. i was always wondering about the slopes on the upper version and wondered how useful they would be as they could be handy for climbing or sprints..... or does this just get duplicated with having hands on the horns? hmm

i'll see what others have to say.. i think that pic may exaggerate the drop a bit.

Mr Wiggles

the slope-drop area on the 21's are kind of useless, you can kind of rest your hands on the corners of the tops and horns but if you try to ride on the slope it's just going to hurt your wrist. Also if you have a brake and a bike light mounted it can feel a little cramped up there.

Wildman Matt

I have the top ones and I love them. I had track drops before and these are a serious improvement. My hands hit just as the slopes start and I find it really comfy. Plus the way the slopes are allows you to really get down on the horns. The drop on them is nice too, not nearly as deep as the pic makes it look. I was worried about that too when I saw the pic. I vote for the top ones.

NotSoProjectPat

i have nitto heat treated bullhorns with no drop and they're awesome. its real easy to use the horns or the flat part... they weigh practically nothing too
if you want a drop in your bars though i really am the wrong person to talk to.

grid256

There are others, most notably Syntace Stratos and Profile Design Airwings. I've run both and probably prefer the Syntace bars because they're more stable for skidding.

speeed

Are the bottom one's NOT rb-009s? I'm looking for some like those except without nearly as much drop, but I can't find any.

twelsch42

speeed - maybe the pic in this thread is deceiving. My bars (i think are 009's) have what seems like a 2" drop measured the deepest point while holding something flat from the flats to the end of the horn. The proportions in the picture just seem different than what I have ... looking again it is probably the same, the angle/lens in the photo just make them seem super deep. BTW that 2" drop seems natural for me, I couldn't see riding bullhorns with any less drop. I also haven't ridden any other bullhorns. I'm tall and lanky at 6'2" riding a 57cm kilo.

veganwar

I ride both the Soma El Toros (same shape as the Nitto Rb-021 but made of steel) and Syntace Stratos with a 20 degree drop (I think). The bike with the El Toros has a shorter top tube and longer stem with some drop in it so the reach is rather different at first. I try not to ride with my hands next to each other against the stem as years of doing that has ****ed up my shoulders. It is easy to avoid that position and keep my hands at shoulder-width on the Syntace. That is a bit harder with the El Toros but Ive been riding the Syntace for years, on and off, and consistenly for the past year and a half, so it took a couple of rides to adjust to the slighlty different hand positions on the El Toros. I went back and forth between these two bikes over the last couple of days and the only real difference I notice now is entirely unrelated to the handlebars (gear ratios too different for my taste). Just take into account your stem length and whether it has drop to it when you are figuring out which bars and whether you want a little, some, or no drop in the bars.

kringle

Agreed. I'm trying to find someone with RB-009s (second bars pictured) to trade with.

veganwar

Nah, just reverse your grip so your palms are facing inward. That is how you would grip the in the drop too. It seems weird at first but it is comfortable. You can also keep your hands with your knuckles facing foward but I have found that it puts a lot of weird downward pressure on my wrists.

kringle

The drop angle of the RB-009s completely doesn't work with my comfortable position on the bike. The RB-009s have the flats that I need. Remember, comfort for one doesn't mean the same for another.

veganwar

I was more responding to Mr. Wiggles assertion that the slopes are going to hurt your wrist. I had the same issue at first but found the comfortable position on the slopes. My response was just pointing out that it is possible to find a comfortable position. I like being stretched out so bullhorns, especially ones with drop, are great for me.

delorean

I don't like a drop on my bullhorns, so I rock the Nitto 018

jdms mvp

syntace stratos imho

peabodypride

I have Mavic pursuits which are way too shallow, just like my old RB-021s. Both are "meh." If you can find something REALLY deep like some good Stratos, they're comfy.

Mr Wiggles

Right flipping your palms help, but if you try to use the slopes for anything there's no leverage if you try to ride like that unless your at speed already. They are fast bars though, position wise; they really stretch you out and make you wanna ride faster.

JayNev

i have the syntace with the 2cm drop or the 200 model, whatever. i like them, more drop might be comfortable too, im not sure.

my kilo has a long top tube, so i don't use the ends too much usually only to climb, etc.. but they are a nice length, not like other bullhorns that i have seen which happen to be really long