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Scratcher33 11-06-08 02:25 PM

Steel wheels in the rain
 
I've been rocking an old Schwinn Suburban that I've refurbished as a singlespeed, and the only wheel I had available to me were old steel ones. I live in Eugene, OR (RAIN); and the front wheel which has a perforated surface brakes reasonably well when wet, but the rear has next to no stopping power as soon as any moisture touches it. Does anyone have any ideas how to improve stopping power for my smooth steel wheel? I was wondering if maybe marring it with steel wool would improve the situation? Any suggestions are appreciated.

JackD 11-06-08 04:12 PM

This is a historic problem with steel wheels. You can try a different set of brake pads. Your LBS should have some good advice on what works for rain. Other than that, get a new rim or wheel. Steel wool will just make it smoother.

sneaky viking 11-06-08 05:01 PM

Steel rims are terrible. I guess Eugene doesn't have bike stores, but there's a lot of places on teh internetz that sell aluminum ones, that would probably ship them to you if you have an address.

Vern 11-06-08 06:22 PM

don't listen to these jokers, steel is real.

Live2Die 11-06-08 06:27 PM

how in the world can you not get anything but steel in eugene? Thats bogus! Fixed wheels go on CL daily, and you can get cheap al wheels at just about every shop in town. your solution is to get new wheels! If it's a budget issue I don't buy it since I know you can get a set for next to nothing. If I had a set I'd sell ya one but the only set I have left isn't cheap.

sneaky viking 11-06-08 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Vern (Post 7804863)
don't listen to these jokers, steel is real.

Yeah, real heavy.

Scratcher33 11-06-08 06:28 PM

don't worry, as a rule I never listen to anyone who replaces the letter "s" with the letter "z"

sneaky viking 11-06-08 06:30 PM

Sorry, I'm being jerky today.

You said you've 'been rocking' it, implying you've had it set up with steel wheels for a while.

If you want to keep it SS, I'd put a WTB ad on craigslist for cheap old aluminum road bike wheels. Say you don't want to spend much. See who responds. I can't imagine you'd have to pay more than $40 for a pair, probably less.

Scratcher33 11-06-08 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Live2Die (Post 7804884)
how in the world can you not get anything but steel in eugene? Thats bogus! Fixed wheels go on CL daily, and you can get cheap al wheels at just about every shop in town. your solution is to get new wheels! If it's a budget issue I don't buy it since I know you can get a set for next to nothing. If I had a set I'd sell ya one but the only set I have left isn't cheap.

I could buy a new aluminum wheel; I only had steel wheels in my possession. Also, it's not a fixed. A Suburban would make a terrible conversion; it's a singlespeed. My Rush is my fixed.

Live2Die 11-06-08 06:36 PM

right, well get rid of those wheels and buy/build some al ones ASAP. Props on having a SS too it's a blast around here to have both ss and fixed.

Scratcher33 11-06-08 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Live2Die (Post 7804950)
right, well get rid of those wheels and buy/build some al ones ASAP. Props on having a SS too it's a blast around here to have both ss and fixed.

In time. I'm in the middle of a pricey wheel build right now and not getting many hours at work, so it'll have to wait. The front wheel actually stops just fine, I had a cheapo alum rear wheel until about a week ago when I stripped the hub on the ped bridge, in between Wash and Jef, over the train. Now the rear wheel pretty much sucks in the rain, but I can get by with just a front brake until funds free up. And yeah, it's def nice to have a SS that won't get wrecked or stolen at the bars.

Live2Die 11-06-08 06:49 PM

Oh man that sux. I live just up the road from that bridge. What wheels are you building up?

Scratcher33 11-06-08 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Live2Die (Post 7805024)
Oh man that sux. I live just up the road from that bridge. What wheels are you building up?

New wheels for the Rush. Somax blue hubs (fixed/fixed in the rear), black Velocity Aerohead rims and some good old silver double butted spokes. What're you riding?

Scratcher33 11-06-08 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by sneaky viking (Post 7804904)
Sorry, I'm being jerky today.

You said you've 'been rocking' it, implying you've had it set up with steel wheels for a while.

If you want to keep it SS, I'd put a WTB ad on craigslist for cheap old aluminum road bike wheels. Say you don't want to spend much. See who responds. I can't imagine you'd have to pay more than $40 for a pair, probably less.

No worries, sometimes I get jerky in response as it can be difficult to get serious responses on this forum.

Vern 11-06-08 07:07 PM

you can crush things better with steel rims, like small animals and cars. keep em, and just glue sand paper or pieces of gravel to your brake pads. Or coat the rims with honey. totally works

Live2Die 11-06-08 07:10 PM

I'm rolling around on a while kilo frame with lf phils to OP's, rb21 horns, and a white Flite. Also my ss is a black dawes with nitto 617's and a CETMA rack. those are the two steeds in my barn right now but it's constantly changing and adapting. You around the Whittaker area too?

planyourfate 11-06-08 07:13 PM

Fibrax raincheater brake pads.

Scratcher33 11-06-08 07:58 PM

I'm about 5 blocks north of the Whit, in West Eugene.

Live2Die 11-06-08 08:29 PM

nice me too. 8th and jeff. We should catch a pint sometime!

Scratcher33 11-07-08 02:57 AM

for sure, PM me, and we'll grab a Ninkasi somewhere

52x15 11-07-08 07:54 AM

You know you can just remove the rear brake...problem solved

667 11-07-08 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Scratcher33 (Post 7804890)
don't worry, as a rule I never listen to anyone who replaces the letter "s" with the letter "z"

Yea, the only thing that's worse is when someone is "rocking" something.

bbattle 11-07-08 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by 667 (Post 7807567)
Yea, the only thing that's worse is when someone is "rocking" something.

maybe not for these guys:


http://www.papermag.com/blogs/spinal_tap.jpg

xiamsammyx 11-07-08 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Live2Die (Post 7805633)
nice me too. 8th and jeff. We should catch a pint sometime!

awww... is so adorable when people find true love on the internetz.

operator 11-07-08 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Scratcher33 (Post 7803488)
I've been rocking an old Schwinn Suburban that I've refurbished as a singlespeed, and the only wheel I had available to me were old steel ones. I live in Eugene, OR (RAIN); and the front wheel which has a perforated surface brakes reasonably well when wet, but the rear has next to no stopping power as soon as any moisture touches it. Does anyone have any ideas how to improve stopping power for my smooth steel wheel? I was wondering if maybe marring it with steel wool would improve the situation? Any suggestions are appreciated.

THere is nothing you can do to improve steel wheels in the rain. You can perhaps try scott mathhauser or salmon koolstops but really you're only realistic solution is rims that are made of aluminum.


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