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What can I do that will help me skid more? 10 feet please

Old 11-06-08, 10:30 PM
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What can I do that will help me skid more? 10 feet please

Hey all, I'm a total poser... but, I'm trying to master the art of skidding. But I'm finding it very difficult. But today I had a major break through...It was raining and I got the tracktion to break loose.. It was seriously fun as balls. But now no rain= no skid?

Some minor questions maybe leading to a comprehensive answer

First thing, How low should the stem be? Do you want it all the way down? or is this irrelevant?

Second thing. I'm running MKS platform pedals toe clipable, is this dumb for skidding (I bought them because they were supposed to be great for biking in sneakers).

Third thing gear ratio. I'm running 46/17 (700c tires/ 170 crank). IS this dumb? Maybe it is but be nice about it. What's the deal here? I feel like I'm trying to kick through concrete when when I try to reverse momentum.

Fourth thing Un weighting.. I don't have the balls to go balls to the stem, I just want to pull minor skids for show (I run a front brake, because it's way awesome).

Ffith thing I weigh 200 lbs. Should it be easier or harder for a huge fat ass to skid?

Finally techniqe, where in the pedal should you try to lock it up?

Also what else should I know?

Thanks for the knowledge.
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Old 11-06-08, 10:33 PM
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The best bet is to wait for it to rain again. That or get one of those slip 'n' slides and run it on the sidewalk out front of your house.
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Old 11-06-08, 10:39 PM
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if you're a righty, right foot back, left foot forward. vice versa for a southpaw.

you're going to have to throw all of your weight to the front of the bike if you want to skid ten feet. the more you weigh, the more weight is on the entire bike, and when you're in the saddle it means it's over your rear wheel.

gear ratio has little to do with it. it's easier in the rain, but it's also more dangerous if you aren't used to the way the bike behaves yet.

once you get used to this, you'll be able to throw your weight forward and gradually move it backwards as your wheel is locked up, this will give you more friction between your rear tire and the street, then you can stop. It gets real fun when you can hockey stop a foot from a pedestrian track standing and say hello.
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Old 11-06-08, 10:44 PM
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The best bet is to wait for it to rain again. That or get one of those slip 'n' slides and run it on the sidewalk out front of your house.
Dude, I'm on it.. That so mean man, I was asking an honest question.. Come on, I just love to bike, don't be uncool. It's not a status thing with me it's an I'm crazy and I want to feel the rust of being slightly out of control..
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Old 11-06-08, 10:49 PM
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ah the rust of being out of control...




but in all seriousness, balls to stem. For fun skids, balls to stem are the only way.
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Old 11-06-08, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ~Stuart~ View Post
ah the rust of being out of control....
I wish I didn't go to public school...
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Old 11-06-08, 10:59 PM
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irrelevant...but if you can get a longer stem it'll help distribute your weight forward more...

i use MKS SYlvans and i skid just fine...

you got weak legs or your tires have too much grip...i'm on a 48x18...

if you want the 10 extra ft you gotta go balls to the stem...quit being a wuss and sack up (literally)...

as long as you bike fits you i don't think it should matter how big you are...skidding is more about leverage...

i start to shift my weight forward when my strong leg is around 4 o' clock and lock it at 9 o' clock...

basically distance skids aren't really skids...you're actually unweighting the rear tire so much that it's barely touching the ground and you're rolling on your front wheel...
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Old 11-06-08, 11:01 PM
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Hey, good to hear you're getting into FG. Don't take people here too seriously, they'll rip on you for little things, it's the nature of a message board. Really, you want to get balls to stem. It's scary at first, but you won't go over the bars... You have to commit to it, no half-assing it. If you can find a spot on some pavement that's a little sandy, that's how I learned. It makes it a bit easier, but once you get out of the sand then you're skidding on pavement. Just keep practicing. If you don't have toe clips, get them (and straps!). pull up with your front foot as much as you're pushing down with your back foot. You want to lock the pedals up before they get at 9 o clock and 3 o clock. Maybe your back foot around 8? (assuming your right foot is back) it takes practice, and some balls to do it at first, but before you know it, it'll be second nature. If you get frustrated/mad, take a break and cool off, you're just more likely to hurt yourself. Again, find something that has less traction than dry pavement (i like sand because you can immediately try it on clean pavement when you get the hang of it), get your weight out front, and be patient! Most of all, have fun! That's what riding is all about.
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Old 11-06-08, 11:03 PM
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skidz are way t0 fun!!
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Old 11-06-08, 11:26 PM
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One problem I have now is that I'm skipping... By skipping I mean I sort of tap my front break to help shift the weight and I thrust forwards and my back tire comes off the groud (bout 6 inches or so) and then I get a little bit of a skid at the end...I've been doing it reverse footed. I'll give it a shot with the other foot stance.. Also should it be one quick motion from seat to stem? or is it more gradual?

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Old 11-06-08, 11:29 PM
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Hey man - I definitely feel your frustration. It took me almost 2 weeks to learn how to skid. I thought I could never do it.

In order to do the quick "seated skids" you just have to lean forward a little bit to get at least SOME weight off the back wheel and like everyone else has said, get your feet at 9 and 3 (horizontal) and focus on pulling up on the front foot and mashing down on the back foot with all your legs, toes, and ankle muscles! The bottom line is that you can't be a girl about it, you have to go for it full force or it won't work...the pedals will dominate you. Don't let the pedals push you around, you tell that bike that YOU are the boss and your legs are stronger than the drive train and you can LOCK that rear wheel up. By the way I weigh 210 and my gearing is 52/19.

I just skidded through a Gatorskin tire...first time ever!
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Old 11-06-08, 11:31 PM
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For me the motion from seat to stem is pretty gradual, and I think it will be like that as you are learning to hang over the handlebars. I had alot of trouble at first hitting my knees on the ends of my drop bars and getting thrown off the bike...no bueno. Keep practicing bro...doing skips is a good place to start, you're making progress.
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Old 11-06-08, 11:36 PM
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skids are not really that hard, especially running a 46:17. get your hands wide on the handlebars, t-bag your stem, anticipate your dominate foot coming parallel to your chainstay and when it does lock up the legs.

also, bringing your wheel a half foot off the ground isn't a skip. you should be shooting for like an inch...
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Old 11-06-08, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FixedinIA View Post
Don't take people here too seriously
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tracktion.

tracktion tracktion tracktion.

tracktion.
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Old 11-07-08, 01:36 AM
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tarcktion?
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Old 11-07-08, 02:22 AM
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This forum is in dire need of a fixed gear FAQ.
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my tarcktion just broke loose and its bleeding
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Just grow some balls and then put them up to the stem and you'll be skidding in no time. Those are the show off skids that don't lose yoou much speed since all your weight is up front. Once you start doing that you'll eventually get the hang and more muscle strength in your legs to skid without so much weight forward
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Eat more pies
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gotta be a troll right?
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and by that, I hope you're talking about the op.
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Originally Posted by Drwecki View Post
I'm running MKS platform pedals toe clipable, is this dumb for skidding (I bought them because they were supposed to be great for biking in sneakers).
based on this it sounds like you don't have clips and straps now. if this is true the first thing you need to do is go to your lbs and buy some. this will make skidding 100 times easier.

also, in one of your later posts you mentioned that you grabbed the front brake in order to start your skid. combine that with balls to stem and that's only going to cause you to endo and the only skid you'll be doing will be on your face.

forget about trying to line up to 9 and 3 or which foot should be forward. just think about locking it up and your most naturally strong position will come to you. I'm a righty and I skid right foot forward most of the time.

and my final point. i'm not saying that i'm a better or worse rider than anyone else here but I pretty much "got" skidding right away(without going balls to stem) and every time i read a post like this it makes me wonder why people have such a hard time with it. all I can say is if it's so difficult maybe you need to ride more and get comfortable just riding your bike before you start skidding around corners.
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Originally Posted by Drwecki View Post
Dude, I'm on it.. That so mean man, I was asking an honest question.. Come on, I just love to bike, don't be uncool. It's not a status thing with me it's an I'm crazy and I want to feel the rust of being slightly out of control..
he said one of the least mean things ive ever seen after an initial post likes yours actually.
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i was heavy when i learned to skid, it'll come just keep riding and like every other minute aspect of fixed gear riding(track standing, brakeless riding, ect... ) it'll come to you in time and probably before you realize it.

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You don't need for the rain or a wet street to practice. Find a place where you can ride on grass an practice there. If you fall you won't bust your ass as badly as on the street. Once you get the idea of where you need to place your feet and your body on the stem practice going from a skid on the grass to a sidewalk attached to it. Most of the difficulty of skidding is the unknown of what it feels like to actually lose traction. Also you don't have to go full speed to learn, you can try that after you can actually initiate a skid.
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