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H plus Son - anyone know whats up?

Old 11-25-08, 10:33 AM
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good question. because they're heavy?
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Old 11-25-08, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by onetwentyeight View Post
why is he selling a product before he has tested it?
How the hell should i know? Ask him.

These rims have also been discussed at length on non-fixed gear forums as well.
There's a number of roadies at weightweenies running these rims too and im sure elsewhere.
Ive heard of them on MTBs too.
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Old 11-25-08, 10:38 AM
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Because they're interested in his product but had a lot of questions.

Granted, he's been busy on the FG forums, but he's been busy explaining to people why his wheels are inappropriate for tricking. Anybody with half a brain should be able to figure out that a wheel that weighs as much as a Deep-V while being 40% deeper isn't going to stand up as well to abusive riding. The fact that he spelled this out to people on just about every forum that showed even the slightest interest in his product goes to show you just how selectively ignorant people can be when the facts interfere with a fashion statement.
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Old 11-25-08, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jdms mvp View Post
new definition to taco'ing a rim
A curry donut would be more appropriate, since it happened in front of Misto Do.

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Old 11-25-08, 10:49 AM
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i know japan could be the next trick capital but something about his setup just begs me to say that i HOPE he wasn't coming down a 5 stair which then led to H+explosion
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Old 11-25-08, 04:16 PM
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One time I drove a Miata up the Appalachian Trail.

True story.
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Old 11-25-08, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by devilshaircut View Post
One time I drove a Miata up the Appalachian Trail.

True story.
But were you able to drive it back down?
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Old 11-25-08, 04:21 PM
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No, it taco'ed in Maine.

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Old 11-26-08, 08:51 AM
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These rims have been tested.

It passed:

35kg load over a single wheel completing a distance of 1000km at 24km/h. The wheel runs on a treadmill with 3 different blocks on the treadmill simulating curbs and bumps on the road. No damaged was detected so it passed.
A similar test was ran in Italy running a single wheel with 75 kg load over it. To pass the test the wheel had to run for 30 hours on a similar treadmill that had 3 blocks rotating. After 3 days of running this wheel test, the tester decided to turn the machine off as the conclusion was that the wheel is overbuilt as it is.
We also passed the EN standard of running the wheel pass 750000 blocks simulating bumps, rocks and curbs.

All of this was tested on these 42mm high rim at 560grams running 16 spokes.


What i am testing out right now are the 680 grams rims for the more tricking crowd. Because we could not find any rim testing standard for fixed freestyle tricks. We decided the best thing to do is give these rims out to riders that really destroy their ****.

There are many reasons for why i decided not to market heavily to the road crowd, mainly out of respect for another brand. The other being that I ride a fixed gear bike. I have stated many times that these rims are not made for tricks. But for normal urban riding, the testing have shown that these rims work very well.

The factory has been making bicycle rims for the past 10 years. It makes about 6 million rims a year and about 2 million of that double wall rims.

A new brand doesn't mean a new factory. Just like the peloton frame that everyone is making fun of. It is actually made by maxway which has been in business forever and makes just about every luged steel frame coming out of taiwan.
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Old 11-26-08, 10:20 AM
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Also. Death hare is 100 percent correct. I have done right next to no marketing. And have not paid any fixed gear rider to ride my rims. The only thing that resembles marketing is sending out samples to parties that have requested them. In which case I have also sent out sl42 rims to stores that only cater to road bikes. But I admit most of the samples have been to fixed gear riders.
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Old 11-26-08, 10:56 AM
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Hey guys, my Spinergy Re-X snapped for no reason.

I was just doing a little wall ride and boom, what the ****?
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Old 11-26-08, 06:13 PM
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Time to buy for who want a cheaper alternative:

http://cgi.ebay.it/TRACK-WHEELS-FIXE...1%7C240%3A1318
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Old 11-26-08, 09:54 PM
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the euros to usd conversion STILL puts that wheelset , on formulas mind you, at nearly 370$....
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Old 11-26-08, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jdms mvp View Post
the euros to usd conversion STILL puts that wheelset , on formulas mind you, at nearly 370$....
It's actually $365 shipped. Way cheaper than the supposed $250 for a pair of unbuilt HpS rims.
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Old 11-26-08, 10:58 PM
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ur going to post for a 5$ difference?...c'mon mang. formula hubs are what like 60$? and if u walk into some establishments u can get H+dad rims for 200$ / pair.

365-260 = 115 for spokes? and those dodicicidicici rims look like extended DP18s, which isn't THAT appealing imho.

if i HAD to do it, i'd just buy the rimset


or these both are 40mm+ and like 10$ cheaper than H+dad rims. (since u made a big deal about 5$ i'm making a bigger deal about 10$ )

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Old 11-27-08, 12:57 AM
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from what i gather, the rim failure on the other page was actually from a improperly mounted tube, resulting in a blowout, which involves pressure that might be more difficult to simulate than road bumps.
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Old 11-29-08, 08:58 AM
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So is this one rim that blew out or a bunch of rims that have failed?
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Old 11-29-08, 09:32 AM
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Have there actually been any other reported failures? The only other "issue" I can remember is some hipster writing on his blog that he touched the sidewall of the rim in a shop and it felt super-thin.
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Old 11-29-08, 01:58 PM
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Old 11-29-08, 04:37 PM
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pretty horrible
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Old 11-29-08, 11:20 PM
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Problem with the World Champion Rainbows is that while it's acceptable among cyclists (done right), you just end up looking like you're showing off your gay pride to non-cyclists.

It's why I stopped wearing my Campy hat w/ rainbow stripe in public.
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Old 11-30-08, 02:51 AM
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I kind of think it's bad ass. Too bad I can't get a deep v that looks that good.
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Old 11-30-08, 09:56 AM
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gotta earn the stripes to use em....
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Old 11-30-08, 12:00 PM
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Yeah, so I guess getting a Pista makes you an automatic world champion.

In something, at least.
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Old 11-30-08, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by neverjared View Post
I kind of think it's bad ass. Too bad I can't get a deep v that looks that good.
yeah, i would rock them all day long
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