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Old 11-19-08 | 01:29 PM
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Don't use salt! It tends to draw dye out of fabric. You can actually make a new shirt look vintage by soaking it in salt.

If you are concerned about dye running out of the jeans then soak them in ice water. This will help to set the dye and then iron them on top of some clean paper, this will permanently set the dye.

Finally, why the **** does anyone care if a saddle changes color!?!! It shows that the bike has been ****ing ridden. God! ****!
I've always washed mine in salt if they are dark wash. Not a lot, just enough to make it slightly isotonic. I Googled and other people do it. But who knows ... could still be wrong.

The most important thing, imo, is not throwing them in the dryer.
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Old 11-19-08 | 01:33 PM
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This thread has gotten really fashionista, but I guess it kinda stared that way. The problem with adding salt to water is that many municipal water sources already have a certain amount salt added or from nature, by adding salt you only increase the concentration of the solution. There are dye fixative products out there though, but several washings to remove excess dye is still probably the best option or dry cleaning to be truely hipster.
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Old 11-19-08 | 01:59 PM
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Good lord!
Am I understanding this correctly? your goin' a month wearing the same pair of jeans and not washing them?
Just out of curiousity do you guys have a social life, girlfriends, etc.? Jeez I can't imagine a women that would want to get within spittin' distance of someone who doesn't wash thier clothes for a month! and if your that lax on the clothes washing what about personnal hygeine?
But hey I guess you just can't put a price on fashion.....Man I'd hate to be the poor schmuck who buys your used brooks, imagine his/her surprise when they open that box! thats gotta smell like the ****ehouse door on a tuna boat!
For the love of pete and all that is sacred wash your damn clothes!
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Old 11-19-08 | 02:13 PM
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Hahaha wow, this really incited a lot of harshness.
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Old 11-19-08 | 02:44 PM
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I love these threads. I hope this turns into an 8-pager.

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Old 11-19-08 | 02:59 PM
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I've easily gone six months without washing jeans... I usually buy the Levis XX shrink to fit ('crispier' more rigid denim). After even two washes they get all soft, and turn too indigo, which some people like, I don't.

Smells, on people, on clothes, on the street are caused by bacteria. If you don't give constant fuel (in the form of dead skin etC) to the bacteria then it's not going to stink; it's science.

As long as you're not wearing the jeans 24 hours a day, running marathons etc etc, and you rotate between a couple pairs (read: give them time to dry out/breathe), or other clothes, they're not going to smell. If all else fails mix a couple oz of vodka in a spray bottle w/ ~8oz. of water and right after you're done wearing them give the crotch / ass a couple of sprays and leave them to dry.

It's like your shoes... most people don't ever wash their shoes, even though it's way more humid and musty and your ass or crotch and gets almost no ventilation. Most people's feet don't stink either because they own more than one pair and give them sufficient time to dry out so stinkiness isn't a problem. the vodka thing also works on shoes...
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Old 11-19-08 | 03:11 PM
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Yo Brohams,
Come on! six months? i'm just not gittin' it...when you take them off do they stand by themselves in the corner? If I were you I'd save the vodka for doin some shots when your sittin home by yourself because no one wants to get near you.....you must be the real life of the party...just funnin' with ya but it does seem alittle odd to me...do what ya want want stanky drawers!
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Old 11-19-08 | 03:12 PM
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Jeans are for poseurs.
True hipsters wear Dungarees.
I thought dungarees are the same as jeans.
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Old 11-19-08 | 03:16 PM
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I haven't quite gotten to the point yet where I dry clean my jeans.
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Old 11-19-08 | 03:35 PM
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Not to sound super uncool, but what's wrong with wearing regular jeans. I buy mine at Koals, 30 bucks levi lowrise slim fit, and they fit fine, and don't have to worry about salt in my wash or other special ****. wear 'em twice or so, then wash 'em.

They fit fine, and look the same as the more expensive ones at the boutique shops.


On the six months thing. I rarely wear undies. Six months would be disgusting. Its not like your any different ten the rest of us. Butt-holes and beanbags sweat, and what about farts.
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Old 11-19-08 | 03:38 PM
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Not to sound super uncool, but what's wrong with wearing regular jeans. I buy mine at Koals, 30 bucks levi lowrise slim fit, and they fit fine, and don't have to worry about salt in my wash or other special ****. wear 'em twice or so, then wash 'em.

They fit fine, and look the same as the more expensive ones at the boutique shops.


On the six months thing. I rarely wear undies. Six months would be disgusting. Its not like your any different ten the rest of us. Butt-holes and beanbags sweat, and what about farts.
I wear Levi's too, the 510s. But regardless of the brand, I still want them to look nice. I don't like the leeched dye look, so I try and wash them as infrequently as possible, and when I do, I am careful with how I wash them.

Expensive jeans are nice too. I have 1 pair of Marc Jacobs jeans that I really love, and I am glad I paid the money I did for them. I can't compare the Levi's to these of course ... but they are each nice in their own way. I am not going to wear these jeans to some dingy dive bar, after all. Everything has a time and place, right?

Either pair though, I still wash the same way. I try to take good care of my (few) belongings. Like the thread talking about immaculate bikes ... why shouldn't we take good care of the things we love?
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Old 11-19-08 | 03:43 PM
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dry denim will definitely bleed on your brooks... i've seen a indigo/honey one lolz.

i just put a white turbo on my bike and i KNOW it's gonna be a blue turbo within the first 5 minutes of ass to saddle contact.

and for those who care at all i'm wearing some flatheads (1 cold soak/unwashed for 3 months lolz)
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Old 11-19-08 | 03:47 PM
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Haha I'm impressed this created so much hate. Thankyou haywire for understanding. Anyway, I had assumed dry denim was more common, I swear half of Melbourne is wearing nudies, which for what it's worth come with a label recommending 6 months wear unwashed. Most people ignore it I'm sure, but it's there. Regardless of jeans style or washing I would have thought brooks honeys might have this problem anyway, they are light as, surely they get diacoloured pretty easy.. One person mentioned one darkening up, is that from sun tanning or general sweat/proofide?

And on the gay laundry care side, salts good, vinegars better, although smelly if you use too much, and washing with pure soap not some phosphate loaded optical brightening crap helps too
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Old 11-19-08 | 03:53 PM
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I don't wash my jeans frequently, but I do think 6 months is overkill.

I'd rather dry clean them then deal with the stench of 6 month unwashed jeans.
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Old 11-19-08 | 03:57 PM
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I wear Levi's too, the 510s. But regardless of the brand, I still want them to look nice. I don't like the leeched dye look, so I try and wash them as infrequently as possible, and when I do, I am careful with how I wash them.

Expensive jeans are nice too. I have 1 pair of Marc Jacobs jeans that I really love, and I am glad I paid the money I did for them. I can't compare the Levi's to these of course ... but they are each nice in their own way. I am not going to wear these jeans to some dingy dive bar, after all. Everything has a time and place, right?

Either pair though, I still wash the same way. I try to take good care of my (few) belongings. Like the thread talking about immaculate bikes ... why shouldn't we take good care of the things we love?
I love my jeans too, but maybe I like the "wore in" look, I dunno. I work in my jeans a lot, so maybe I'm just used to not getting attached.

Now that I think of it, the fist thing I do to all my jeans when new is wash them a bunch of times to soften them up.

One more thing, do you guys wash them when you buy them? Think of all the people, some like me who don't wear underwear, trying them on in the store. You take them home and wear them right away. Yeah, you try them on after everyone elses junk has touched them, but think of it this way; touch your junk to another mans junk for a few seconds. Its weird and gross, but imagine junk touches lasting six months. All your junk sweat, his junk sweat getting all friendly. Now think of your butt-holes touching too. Maybe after having mexican for lunch.

Disclaimer: I do not recommend, and do not myself, go around rubbing my genitals on other guys genitals. Just an example.
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haha I think you are in the minority with the whole no underwear thing... and sadly if you're a truly keen denimhead (I fortunately don't fit into this category.. yet) you probably only want japanese denim, hence have to order online, so chances are no one else has ever worn that ****.
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Old 11-19-08 | 04:08 PM
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haha I think you are in the minority with the whole no underwear thing... and sadly if you're a truly keen denimhead (I fortunately don't fit into this category.. yet) you probably only want japanese denim, hence have to order online, so chances are no one else has ever worn that ****.
You should try it sometime. Its so much more comfy.

Also, many people do, just not many will admit it.
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Old 11-19-08 | 04:15 PM
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I wear briefs ... personally I think the cotton is more comfortable than denim.

But it's all a matter of personal opinion.
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yeah the denim on these jeans get's pretty rigid man, I have a pair of imperials in 14oz, and ironhearts come in 21oz, whereas normal low-end levis are probably 8oz... when you first put them on it's like wearing cardboard or light sandpaper, no undies and I reckon you'd be rubbed raw pretty painfully fast
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yeah the denim on these jeans get's pretty rigid man, I have a pair of imperials in 14oz, and ironhearts come in 21oz, whereas normal low-end levis are probably 8oz... when you first put them on it's like wearing cardboard or light sandpaper, no undies and I reckon you'd be rubbed raw pretty painfully fast
IMO, he free balls it to cut down on bike weight.

Just a theory.
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IMO, he free balls it to cut down on bike weight.

Just a theory.

Lol. More like freeballing for ease of access. J/k, but I wish I got so much tang I need to always be on the ready.

Just like the "freedom," but boxers ride up too much. Also, the girlfriend thinks its hot, so...
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Lol. More like freeballing for ease of access. J/k, but I wish I got so much tang I need to always be on the ready.

Just like the "freedom," but boxers ride up too much. Also, the girlfriend thinks its hot, so...
Nothing like pissing while riding your fixie, eh?

Okay, I'll give the last point you made.
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Nothing like pissing while riding your fixie, eh?

Okay, I'll give the last point you made.
I've pissed while riding during a century once. but was a greared roadie. Pissing while not coasting will take some talent
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I've pissed while riding during a century once. but was a greared roadie. Pissing while not coasting will take some talent
That is kind of awesome.
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