StillaKid

So I went to my LBS, and I got an estimate on a customized complete bike.

Heres the list of parts:
Pake frame/fork
Sugino RD messenger crankset
Deep V's
Phil Wood flip flop rear hub
surly cog
tektro brakes
Soma handlebar
Soma saddle
and thats all i can remember so far.

the estimate is 950, is this overpiced or fair?

I'm new to fixies, and did think about just converting an old road bike but I havent had anytime. So when you reply back, remember that time is a factor here. I don't have time to set up a complete bike part by part, let alone look for parts, part by part.

Thanks for the help!!

dayvan cowboy

how about instead of getting bling hubs you use that money for a better frame?

StillaKid

I would still get rims though.. i cant help myself!

MPLSdunk

word, get formulas and a nicer frame. i have a pake, it's ok but you could do better.

jet sanchEz

Way way too nice a build for a Pake.

BoozyMcliverRot

You can get a complete Trek T1 for around a grand.

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/road/track/t1/

timothyday

While I'm in full support of paying a premium for great LBS service, $950 sounds a little steep for a Pake build.

Adam G.

Super over priced. I would say $400 over priced. Forget the philwood hubs, people who buy those that don't race on track. but buy them for casual street riding are idiots. Get formula's like someone said before, they are the most under-rated hub but they are rock solid and last forever.

Blacksail

Yeah ditch the hubs for some formulas.

Phils are overkill.

jdms mvp

you can get a complete FTP for 889. brand new

murdaki11

word. But the hubs are killing the price.

K_phomma

Deep v's suck. Phil wood's are unneeded. Formula's laced to box rims.

NotSoProjectPat

buy a complete wheelset instead of building your own/having the shop build it for you.
you can find good wheelsets either used or on ebay w/o having to pay for the labor of lacing up 2 wheels

skeem

i have a pake with similar setup- i use phils instead of pauls hubs though. pake frames are good, ive loved mine for years. it could be lighter, but if your a weight weenie than why phils and deep v's? anyway, if all the parts are new its worth it for sure, if not, id still say get it. if you buy a new trek, felt, jamis... for a grand it wont have nearly as nice parts on it and all in all a pake frame is amazing for just plain riding. also, if you plan on riding everywhere for yeas and years, the good hubs will be with you the whole time, if your a casual rider and will prolly give up your fixie for a car and a new trend in 2010, then nice hubs just are overkill. i have some old old paul hubs on an mtb and theyre still great over a decade later, have never replaced the bearings either- you get what you pay for

darksiderising

Machine-built wheels just aren't the same. Some people value quality craftpersonship, and realize that a well build wheel by a person is going to last longer than one built by a machine.

RealFrames

Please spend your money on a REAL frame!!

sneaky viking

These ppl are not buying Pakes.

dcraver

Way too much.

na975

i have a pake, i wouldn't sell it for $950!

joetotale

For that money, you can buy a Soma Rush frame made from double butted Tange Prestige (vs. straight gauge no-name cr-mo) and build it up, if not completely, then at least most of the way with quality components. (FWIW, Pake is the "economy" marque from Soma Fabrications.)

EDIT: Just saw the part where the OP mentions that he can't/doesn't want to do a complete build. Still, my point just underlines the fact that that price is way too high.

mr_macgee

Way too much

erichsia

I guess I understand all the talk about putting lipstick on a pig, so to speak. But I've always thought the Pake was a durable and good looking frame, if nothing else. Heavy sure, but as people are so fond of saying, if you're riding it on the street then weight isn't really going to be an issue. Phil's might be overboard on a build for a Pake, but what's the problem with putting some quality components on this frame? You can always switch the parts out to new frame if you want to upgrade. Isn't that part of the point/fun in building up a bike?

I ride a Pake, and like it a lot, for what it's worth.

gkelley

you know building a bike up isn't that hard or time consuming and it quite satisfying. That way you actually know something about how your bike works and can diagnos weird noises and such/you don't seem like such a tool when trying to describe what is wrong with your bike at the lbs. Look at the volume cutter frames i heard they were decent, I have an alien frame and really like it too

mr_macgee

I would recommend building a non labeled Mercier Kilo frame (or the Rush) over a Pake. It has better tubing and it's a lighter frame.

darksiderising

I think it would be helpful to the OP if people indicated why they believe that complete build is not worth the money. In my view, the cost of the frame, components, and labor should total about that amount. I think most people are commenting on the build using that frame, instead of the actual worth of the entire bike. I own a Pake among other bikes and it rides nice with nice components on it. Sure, the frame is worth around $200, but the complete build (with those nice parts) is surely worth the money quoted.