Double Gate toe clips?
 

Pardon the ignorance, but what's the reasonning behind 'double gate toe clips'?

These things
http://abbotsfordcycles.com.au/publi...omatoeclip.jpg

Richard

I like them because i never adjust the straps. Having two strap makes it more solid when pulling up. It spreads the pressure across the top of my shoe.

Oups... I thought you meant these....

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c...2_2026_5241854

If you mean what's the deal with two gates instead of one... it's biggest advantage is probably that they hold the strap out wide making easier to slip your foot in. Especially with big feet or when I wear my Adidas (that's all I wear except only when I ride the track bike). I have an old pair of Gravis Tarmac mids that are perfect riding sneakers and are frigg'n awesome all around, but they are beat. DAMIT, I have to find another pair. i don't like how they changed them up.

That's okay. I replied before you put your picture up, wondering why you wanted two straps :)

So, the advantage is a wider spread of the pressure. That right? Any other reasons?

I'm asking out of pure curiosity, but also because I'm going to have to order some clips from overseas because you can only get plastic here. If these are a better unit, particularly for someone with wide feet like me, I might get them instead.

Then there's the issue of pedals. Again, decent ones aren't available in the shops though you do get an interesting collection of patronising looks.

Richard

Yup, that's where I was coming from. Thanks

Richard

..and a wider spread of pressure laterally across your foot @ the strap.
If you like to synch them up every time, then I'd probably not go for the quad... or if your bikes has a vintage look.

im still interested in these clips. i think ill get a pair of the quad gates eventually, to replace my LL MKS clips, which seem a little too big with size 12 feet

i prefer resin. i even rave the velodrome with them.. thery are strong, comfy, and come in lots of colours at 1/4 of the price. they also dont scrape against the cround and gimmie the heebie jeeebiez.

there's a thread about this somewhere..

single gates stick into your shoe laces and double gates tend not to. :)

since you helped me with my gear ratio question. I figured i'd try here.

the difference between the single and double gate is probably marginal, but the pedal you choose (since you implied you're getting new ones) is very important. In the MKS line (which are the only i would ever get) the track and road pedals are great, but tend to put a pressure point on your foot since they are a "cage" or wrap-around style. the gr-9's however seem to be more of a platform type of pedal that will hopefully suit you well. They have been known to be skinnier though.

Harris Cyclery offers steel, aluminum and resin toe clips as well as a variety of straps. Look near the bottom of their pedals page.

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/pedals.html

Just to prove that I am indeed human ... I just went and had a look at my commuter. She wears a pair of cheap mtb pedals with plastic toe clips and guess what ... they're double gate:o

I hadn't noticed before but you can bet I'm going to take a bit more notice now :D

Re the pedals. Thanks for the feedback. I really like the look of the MKS GR-9, but they are far too narrow for my foot and footwear. I did consider a pair of Sheldon's 'Kneesaver' spacers, but that would make for a very wide, unsupported axle length because the body of the pedal stops right at the edge of the patform.

I do have M324s on the bikes now, and a spare set of plastic toe clips. I might just fit the toe clips to the platform side of the M324s. They don't have the little tag to help flip them but to be honest, I'm not sure if I ever use that. If I do keep using them, I might remove the clipless arrangement - riding on the clip without a clipless shoe isn't real comfy, even for a short distance. That looks like a bit of mucking about though.

There is a real shortage of decent pedals though. Apart from the GR-9, every pedal for toe clips is the old style and I would really like to spread the load further over my foot than just the two steel strips. .

Richard

Back before clip-in pedals your double toe-clips were used by track racers. During hard acceleration their feet were coming out of single strap toe-clips.

http://www.velo-orange.com/petoeclandac.html

Check out the new VO city and touring pedals, I haven't heard anything about them but they look interesting.

Those do look sweet.
The RX-1's are awesome. I cant see spending the money though.

I just ordered some MKS track pedals, white soma double gate clips, and single leather straps. I can't wait to test them out. I am sure they will beat the stock set up on the Kilo TT which has crappy pedals, plastic clips and nylon straps that slip like crazy

The VO Touring pedals do look nice
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c..._2032_19919850

Fit a nice pair of metal double gates and they'd look really swish :D

Funny, I've done a couple of short rides now with the M324s and toe clips (Jamis) ... and I'm getting foot pain! The M324 has a very wide platform, so I'm wondering if the rear edge is putting pressure in the arch of my foot, but they don't appear to be any wider than the crappy Giant MTB pedals (commuter) which don't give me any problems at all. Maybe it's a bike set up difference. Anyone else tried the M324?

Richard

personally, i prefer resin (plastic) more durable, no horrible scrapping noise, dont get creased when u stop on them, lighter, cheaper, cooler colours. i know, not very cool to like resin clips, eh? i also preser sylvan streams, and gr9s to campy track pedals, so nyah.

-vdbfan

They need to make some quad gate resins... holler!

One word for you: Plastic.

People scoff, but it is a miracle.

not at all, mine broke off completely on my right pedal after about two months of daily use. And my left was half way to the same grave.

The tops of my Soma's are scratched and they are a bit compressed (from stomping on them, pedaling, etc).. but they only compress so much, it's not a problem at all. I'd have to be in a really silly situation to ever "crease" them, but I'm thinking in that same situation anything plastic, resin or carbon fiber would totally fail.

man, i would buy erray colour. cmon pake.. make some outta the stuff you make those wnderful straps outta.

everytime I've used plastic clips I end up breaking them at the part where they screw in the pedal. like the screws will pop straight through. then I put washers on the screws and they still somehow pop through.

I find sylvan track + mks single gate + toshi doubles to be a wonderful combination.

Where do you find colored resin clips? (note I tried Google with little success)

I'd love some purple ones.