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BMW Gangsta vs FBM Sword vs Cinelli Vigorelli

Old 12-06-08, 06:15 PM
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BMW Gangsta vs FBM Sword vs Cinelli Vigorelli

O.k i want to build a fixed gear Bike for city riding, alleycats and some trick riding. I am between this 3 options:

1. BMW Gangsta frame set size 46

2. FBM Sword 59 cm

3. Cinelli vigorelli XL (58 cm)

Which one do you suggest?

Another question i have is that my height is 193cm (6'3) . The BMW Gangsta comes only in 2 sizes which is 40 and 46. Does anyone here with the same height had any experience with the 46 gangsta? Does it fit o.k when compared to 193cm height?

The other parts i will build the bike with are Deep V Rims, Profile fixed hubs, Profile Crankset, Profile Stem and Nitto or Soma Bars
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Old 12-06-08, 06:29 PM
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Are you going to do barspinzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (breath) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

edit:
The Cinelli does not fit in on that list. Why would you buy a $1100 MSRP frame to ride around and try to act like a messenger?

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Old 12-06-08, 06:30 PM
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those are 3 very different frames. but based on what you want to do with it, get the sword.
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Old 12-06-08, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mattyfatty182 View Post
Are you going to do barspinzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (breath) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

based that i come from a bmx background then i suppose probably yes
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Old 12-06-08, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mattyfatty182 View Post
Are you going to do barspinzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (breath) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

edit:
The Cinelli does not fit in on that list. Why would you buy a $1100 MSRP frame to ride around and try to act like a messenger?
vig frameset is like $650 on total cycling right now. but still, get the sword. the gangsta is too trick focused, the vig is to race focused, the sword is a nice medium.

edit: somewhat related, the fbm forks look like they're going to be pretty sick. https://www.fbmfixed.com/news.php?newsid=1408

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Old 12-06-08, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by walking disease View Post
vig frameset is like $650 on total cycling right now. but still, get the sword. the gangsta is too trick focused, the vig is to race focused, the sword is a nice medium.
What I was getting at is that those three frames all have pretty substantial differences.
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Old 12-06-08, 07:06 PM
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I like those FBMs except for the low BB height and the integrated headset. I also agree that the Vigorelli does not fit.
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Old 12-06-08, 07:31 PM
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BMW gangsta is supposed to be fantastic for what you want to do
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Old 12-06-08, 07:33 PM
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get a Volume Cutter frame instead...
https://www.volumebikes.com/frames-cutter.html
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Old 12-07-08, 10:43 AM
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Why would anyone choose any of the 3 choices at all?
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I think this is also a good choice.

https://www.traitorcycles.com/Bikes_R...m?paintvar=PBR
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Old 12-07-08, 05:58 PM
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This is like

Hey I want to get a car to do some driving, off roading, and maybe mow my lawn
Should I get
a) acura
b) jeep
c) riding lawn mower
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Sounds like those framesets would be too small.
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sorry but the sword is fugly, the dropouts are gross. BMW Gangsta has a long wait-list and the vigorelli is really built for the track. For BARSPINNZZ none of those. But I do love the cinelli.
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This is like

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Should I get
a) acura
b) jeep
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athank you and alol
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Originally Posted by j3ffr3y View Post
sorry but the sword is fugly, the dropouts are gross. BMW Gangsta has a long wait-list and the vigorelli is really built for the track. For BARSPINNZZ none of those. But I do love the cinelli.
the gansta track barspins a 700c with its stock fork btw.
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the wait on the bmw is 6 to 8 weeks. Also, they have a 50 now, and john prolly rides that and i believe he is 6'1.

Also, Austin races on this bmw in alleycats and single speed cycle cross races. He doesn't use it for tricks so to say the bmw is to trick oriented is false. I used mine to race and i worked on it too. I don't think i ever landed a damn bar spin anyway.
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the head tube on that sword looks so friggin' ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by j3ffr3y View Post
sorry but the sword is fugly, the dropouts are gross. BMW Gangsta has a long wait-list and the vigorelli is really built for the track. For BARSPINNZZ none of those. But I do love the cinelli.
the '09 sword is hot imo.

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