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Old 12-06-08, 06:56 PM
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113 rear spacing.

I got a 113 mm rear spaced njs frame and I recently purchased a set of dura ace 7600's in a 120mm..is there any way to make them fit together

removing lock nut and finding a narrow lock nut? any other options?

my frame is cromo.
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Old 12-06-08, 07:05 PM
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You can always just pry open the track ends a little to fit the wheel in. It's steel, so it'll be alright.
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Old 12-06-08, 07:06 PM
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113 is for your 110 wheel plus 1mm on each side for a tug, plus a little wiggle room. respace your hubs to 110 and get a pair of tugs, or don't, and pretend the 3mm discrepancy doesn't exist.
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Old 12-06-08, 07:11 PM
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dura ace made a 110 spacer kit for the 120 hubs but i believe they recently stopped. you might be able to get one still, eai seems to have warehouses of deadstock. the proper spacer kit is important because it also gives you the 8mm axle.
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you can space 120 mm 7600 to fit a 110 mm rear?
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Originally Posted by bboysubhuman View Post
You can always just pry open the track ends a little to fit the wheel in. It's steel, so it'll be alright.
please don't do this. i know people who have spread their frame and it looks awful. imperfect drop outs and visibly bent seat stays significantly compromise the quality of the frame, imo. 110 hubs are not that hard to come by.
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you can space 120 mm 7600 to fit a 110 mm rear?
yes, with the spacer kit.
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Old 12-06-08, 07:20 PM
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can someone link me to the spacer kit..i can't seem to find any info on it.. please
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Shimano NJS Keirin hub axle conversion kits (restock)
These convert a standard 120/10mm, 100/9mm set to the rarer 110/8mm, 100/8mm



try here...

http://njsframes.blogspot.com/
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Originally Posted by onecarless View Post
you can space 120 mm 7600 to fit a 110 mm rear?
yes. shimano used* to sell a conversion kit for around 40$ usd. which contained a 8mm slotted axle, cones, washers, and nuts appropriate for 110mm spacing.

i have owned 3 sets of 110mm spaced hubs , two dura ace and 1 sansin. (1 dura ace set is now respaced to 120mm on my FTP)

to answer the OP's question.

u can either...hunt down this conversion kit (which is discontinued btw)
u can file down your axle and cold set your frame
u can sell the wheelset and buy an appropriate wheelset
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John @ Businesscycles told me the Suzue can be spaced down to 112mm.

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looking at my 7600s it looks like there are two spacers between the locknut and cone on each side, a think one and a thin one. you should be able to take out the thick spacer and get down to 116ish. should be close enough. of course if you need an 8 mm axle youd still have that problem.
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Just get the 110 spaced Dura Ace hubs or the spacer kit.
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i have the opposite problem. my Dura Ace hubs are spaced at 110mm and a frame i am considering has 120mm spacing? is there a spacer kit that will allow me to respace these or is it possible to make them fit?
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you don't really need the locknuts. you can just tighten the frame right to the cones... it'll be fine



in reality, the kit idea sounds like your best option, i'm sure one can still be found somewhere.
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Originally Posted by usherenko View Post
i have the opposite problem. my Dura Ace hubs are spaced at 110mm and a frame i am considering has 120mm spacing? is there a spacer kit that will allow me to respace these or is it possible to make them fit?
It sounds to me like the problem was just solved. Why don't the two of you just trade hubs. Assuming that the wheels have not been built up yet that sounds like it would solve both of your problems
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It sounds to me like the problem was just solved. Why don't the two of you just trade hubs. Assuming that the wheels have not been built up yet that sounds like it would solve both of your problems
His problem was over 6 months ago, i would think he solved it by now, and dosn't need my hubs.
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easy. Change the shaft of your hub or buy a new hub that fits your frame.
Otherwise frame conversions are possible.
Example:
http://www.kalavinka-bikes.com/index_j.htm
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Originally Posted by vladuz976 View Post
easy. Change the shaft of your hub or buy a new hub that fits your frame.
Otherwise frame conversions are possible.
Example:
http://www.kalavinka-bikes.com/index_j.htm
what the hell man

this thread is like a year and half old. i'd hope he's solved his problem
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what the hell man

this thread is like a year and half old. i'd hope he's solved his problem
maybe people other than the OP will find information in this thread helpful.
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Originally Posted by vladuz976 View Post
maybe people other than the OP will find information in this thread helpful.
This. We're always bagging on people for not using the search function yet when they do and post in an old thread, we act like it's the zombie apocalypse.
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This. We're always bagging on people for not using the search function yet when they do and post in an old thread, we act like it's the zombie apocalypse.
Happens in all forums...itīs the nature of the beast!
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