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Double fixed hubs.
It seems like a comical idea because even if you flip your wheel over to a different size cog, you will have too much or too little chain to run the other side, so whats the point. Or perhaps I am missing something here?
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I believe with true track ends, you do have enough lateral freedom to accommodate a one- or two-tooth cog difference.
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The whole point is that you can run more than one ratio by flipping.
Or, bugger up the threads on one side and not have to buy a new hub. |
If you keep it within 1-2 teeth, you shouldn't have any problems. I have 16t and 17t on mine.
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i have a 4 tooth spread on my flip flop with room to spare on my iro's dropouts.
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Originally Posted by evan811
(Post 8257322)
It seems like a comical idea because even if you flip your wheel over to a different size cog, you will have too much or too little chain to run the other side, so whats the point. Or perhaps I am missing something here?
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Originally Posted by Jabba Degrassi
(Post 8257594)
If you keep it within 1-2 teeth, you shouldn't have any problems. I have 16t and 17t on mine.
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Originally Posted by evan811
(Post 8257322)
It seems like a comical idea because even if you flip your wheel over to a different size cog, you will have too much or too little chain to run the other side, so whats the point. Or perhaps I am missing something here?
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i'm running a 13-17 flip flop
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Also gives you the most versatility for a flip-flop since you can run a freewheel or a fixed cog on either side. (Sure, you can run a fixed cog on both sides of a fixed/free hub, but you're sans lockring on one side.)
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Originally Posted by evan811
(Post 8257322)
It seems like a comical idea because even if you flip your wheel over to a different size cog, you will have too much or too little chain to run the other side, so whats the point. Or perhaps I am missing something here?
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Originally Posted by CliftonGK1
(Post 8258313)
Also gives you the most versatility for a flip-flop since you can run a freewheel or a fixed cog on either side. (Sure, you can run a fixed cog on both sides of a fixed/free hub, but you're sans lockring on one side.)
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Originally Posted by fuzz2050
(Post 8258941)
A fixed cog, sans lockring is not a good idea, especially since the aim is versatility. I'd get a fixed/fixed, if they were cheaply available.
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wat?
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yeah i run a 17t on the street and a 15t on the track with no need for additional/fewer chain links
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Originally Posted by jdms mvp
(Post 8258967)
u dont need a lockring if u are riding at the track.
as to what does and does not fit, let's be quantitative about it. 1 tooth on a cog engages 1/2 link of a chain or 1/2 inch of chain. but the chain only wraps around half the cog, so 1 less tooth on the cog means 1/4 inch of extra chain. that extra 1/4 inch, though, is shared between the sections of chain above and below the chainstay, so the axle only moves 1/8 inch back in the dropout. the axle is about .4 in thick, so if your dropouts are 1.4 inches long you can theoretically deal with an 8 tooth difference. in practice you have to account for space for the track nuts to grip and things don't always line up as you'd like them to, but a 4 tooth spread is usually no problem. just remember that if you have a rear brake it'll probably not line up and may rub the tire or spokes because the rim's position will have changed along with the axle. |
Fixed/free flip flop hubs are a foolish buy IMO seeing as how you can run a freewheel on the fixed threads.
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Originally Posted by CliftonGK1
(Post 8258313)
Also gives you the most versatility for a flip-flop since you can run a freewheel or a fixed cog on either side. (Sure, you can run a fixed cog on both sides of a fixed/free hub, but you're sans lockring on one side.)
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I've run a 48/18 and 48/15 on my fuji, with just enough space in the drop outs.
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Originally Posted by croscoe
(Post 8259624)
I beg to differ. A fixed/fixed hub will yield the greatest versatility as one could use 2 fixed cogs, 2 freewheels, or a fixed cog and freewheel. From what I understand, the few threads not utilized by a freewheel on the 'fixed' side aren't a problem.
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I like the double fixed hub. 15t for flats and low wind conditions or 14t for towing a trailer or strong headwinds.:D
Provided you're not running a "magic ratio" on a bike with vertical dropouts there should be enough room to swap one side or the other without chain problems. |
Croscoe is talking about fixed/fixed.
And Plecks, it is ill advised to run fixed on the freewheel side. No threads at all for a lockring so too much back pressure and you've got yourself a mess of trouble. |
Originally Posted by SpaceFace
(Post 8260533)
Croscoe is talking about fixed/fixed.
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I love my Shimano DA fixed/fixed, merely because of the security if I accidentally strip the threads on one side. But I rarely keep a cog on the non-drive side because of the added rotational weight.
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^ Really? The weight of a cog that close to the point of rotation is insignificant.
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