Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
Reload this Page >

Can you keep up with the road bikers?

Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

Can you keep up with the road bikers?

Old 03-06-09, 08:53 AM
  #51  
ne14surf
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Yokohama, Japan
Posts: 8
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yeah, but the roadies with their derailleurs, brakes, brake lines, etc. never look as good as FGs. Plus it is nothing like pissing off a roadie when you pass them on your FG.
ne14surf is offline  
Old 03-06-09, 08:55 AM
  #52  
Yaktizzle417
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 159

Bikes: 2001 Bianchi Eros, 1976 Orbea conversion

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Well yesterday I did drop an entire group ride (10 people, 5 fixed/5 road) for about a mile and then I dropped back into 2nd or 3rd. I wanted to see if I could actually catch up cause some of the dudes on FG's are fast as ****. That and its always fun to challenge your friends haha. 46/17, 23's
Yaktizzle417 is offline  
Old 03-06-09, 08:57 AM
  #53  
illenvillain
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
illenvillain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 356
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ne14surf View Post
Yeah, but the roadies with their derailleurs, brakes, brake lines, etc. never look as good as FGs. Plus it is nothing like pissing off a roadie when you pass them on your FG.
well put
illenvillain is offline  
Old 03-06-09, 09:15 AM
  #54  
brandonspeck
everyday I'm hustlin'
 
brandonspeck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 453

Bikes: Surly Crosscheck, Surly Steamrolla

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm friends with a lot of the cycling team at my university, and I see one of them on his road bike regularly getting out of one of my classes. We try and race each other, and I won the last couple of days, but then I realized he was just using his clipless pedals with street shoes.

He brought his clipless shoes the other day, and I got absolutely smoked, as would any fixed gear rider against a geared road bike.
brandonspeck is offline  
Old 03-06-09, 09:28 AM
  #55  
Yellowbeard
Senior Member
 
Yellowbeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 856
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ne14surf View Post
Yeah, but the roadies with their derailleurs, brakes, brake lines, etc. never look as good as FGs. Plus it is nothing like pissing off a roadie when you pass them on your FG.
More likely they're pissed because they can guess how pointlessly smug you are over it. Plus they know you'll probably run out of steam as soon as you can duck down a side street...or maybe that's just me.

And if you think that road bikes never look as good as fixed gears, oh man, you should'a seen the one I saw on Wednesday.
Yellowbeard is offline  
Old 03-06-09, 11:32 AM
  #56  
bmw5nkj
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 309
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
fixed gears are fun yes, but they will never be faster than a road bike. although i have passed a few roadies with spandex, clipless and all that jazz, most still beat me. it's always fun to draft behind them though. (sometimes i do return the favor)

i don't know what you are talking about, but having brakes, derailleurs, etc. is pretty darn good looking. they are not in the same league to be compared anyway. road bikes=storming the open road, fixed gears=town/city nimble-machine.
bmw5nkj is offline  
Old 03-06-09, 11:41 AM
  #57  
helloamerican
lifewaster.
 
helloamerican's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Georgia.
Posts: 981
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Yellowbeard View Post
More likely they're pissed because they can guess how pointlessly smug you are over it. Plus they know you'll probably run out of steam as soon as you can duck down a side street...or maybe that's just me.

And if you think that road bikes never look as good as fixed gears, oh man, you should'a seen the one I saw on Wednesday.

no, they're certainly pissed because they paid 5k for their bike but can't move it faster than a punkass child with a conversion.


cause we're stereotyping for fact right?
helloamerican is offline  
Old 03-06-09, 11:49 AM
  #58  
Jawn P
Senior Member
 
Jawn P's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kent, Ohio
Posts: 211

Bikes: Waterford 1200, Redline Monocog, Redline Conquest Pro, Surly Long Haul Trucker, and a Sunday BMX bike!

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Smokin' roadies.
Jawn P is offline  
Old 03-06-09, 11:50 AM
  #59  
roadfix
hello
 
roadfix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 18,601
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 143 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
I often ride my FG with spandex, clipless, and all that jazz simply because often that's how I ride my road bike.
roadfix is offline  
Old 03-06-09, 01:20 PM
  #60  
gnome
shaken, not stirred.
 
gnome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: The Shaky Isles.
Posts: 4,456

Bikes: I've lost count.

Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 853 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 15 Posts
Only if they are not trying. I can on average beat about the bottom 20% of roadies on any bike. Fitter people, well I can't keep up with them on anything.
__________________
Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. ~Mark Twain, "Taming the Bicycle"
vBulletin: snafu
gnome is offline  
Old 03-06-09, 01:26 PM
  #61  
ALaS
click. click click.
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 222

Bikes: Leader 725TR http://velospace.org/node/23532

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Maybe if you changed your gearing to like 44/16 you'd be able to keep up with him in the higher end speeds? It'l take you longer to get there but your top speed would increase, I think.
ALaS is offline  
Old 03-06-09, 02:55 PM
  #62  
PunctualAlex
sucker for lugs
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Denver
Posts: 364

Bikes: Shogun 800 (had to cull the herd)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by brandonspeck View Post
...as would any fixed gear rider against a geared road bike.
OK, this thread is getting silly. If Chris Hoy came down here and puttered around on the Platte River path on a Kilo TT I bet he could hold his own against the fleets of entry-level Giants creaking under the weight of helmet mirrors and Whole Foods jerseys, so let's dispense with the generalizations, right?

Lots of the people in my town who buy road bikes put in maybe 20 miles a week and work full-time jobs. I, on the other hand, have nothing better to do than sprint across town to nap and drink beer all afternoon. So yes, I can keep up with the road bikers.
PunctualAlex is offline  
Old 03-06-09, 04:21 PM
  #63  
martinus
Senior Member
 
martinus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 939
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
A person on a fixie, keeping up / or passing a roadie ... is like Sabine Schmitz passing motorcyclists on the Nürburgring , in a ford tranzit van.

Its not, that one is so bad arse ... but rather the other that really needs another hobby. : o )


.
.
.
martinus is offline  
Old 03-06-09, 11:36 PM
  #64  
caloso
Packfodding 3
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 38,020

Bikes: Ridley Excalibur, Gazelle Champion Mondial, On-One Pompino, Specialized Rock Hopper

Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1811 Post(s)
Liked 130 Times in 78 Posts
Originally Posted by bmw5nkj View Post
fixed gears are fun yes, but they will never be faster than a road bike. although i have passed a few roadies with spandex, clipless and all that jazz, most still beat me. it's always fun to draft behind them though. (sometimes i do return the favor)

i don't know what you are talking about, but having brakes, derailleurs, etc. is pretty darn good looking. they are not in the same league to be compared anyway. road bikes=storming the open road, fixed gears=town/city nimble-machine.
I'm just the opposite, actually. I love my FG for the open country when I can develop a rhythm and just let my legs turn, turn, turn.
caloso is offline  
Old 03-07-09, 12:24 AM
  #65  
Live2Die
?que?
 
Live2Die's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 783
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Can we draw a distinction between passing someone and beating someone. How many times do you "smoke a roadie" but they have no idea they are in a race, they are just riding for themselves. Sure I'll pass so called "roadies" frequently but I'm just zipping across town and got nothing better to do than push super hard for 3 miles, that does not mean I am faster or beat that guy, it means I happened to be moving a higher speed at that point in time. Ride your bike for you, no one else and don't call a pass a race or a person in spandex a "roadie that rides 20 miles and works full time" if you don't know that. A cyclist is a cyclist just like you are so pass the guy and give him a nod or better yet break his wind for a bit and start sharing the love. I can tell you when I get passed by some kid on a conversion with deep v's who cuts me off and is obviusly "racing me" it doensn't motivate me to smoke him it just makes me think ill of the kid. It doesn't make him faster it makes him annoying. Ok I'm done venting
Live2Die is offline  
Old 03-07-09, 12:59 AM
  #66  
jsource
Senior Member
 
jsource's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 176
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Me on roadbike = faster than me on fixed gear.
jsource is offline  
Old 03-07-09, 01:06 AM
  #67  
lsboogy
lsboogy
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2

Bikes: bianchi(s), bottecchia, guerchiotti, mercier, redline, schwinn

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm a 49 year old fixed/single speed/road bike rider - I just like to get out on a bike when I can. My basic fixie is 52/16 geared pista concept on heds with tufo tubulars - I can deal with the road bike guys easily (90 cadence comes out to better than 24mph) on flat terrain, but on hills they leave me far behind. I would hesitate that a good track bike is faster than a road bike as it weighs less and is better aero, but we don't have gears so terrain becomes the differentiator.
lsboogy is offline  
Old 03-07-09, 03:54 AM
  #68  
dddave
Senior Member
 
dddave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: los angeles
Posts: 2,147

Bikes: 2012 redline conquest pro / 2008 yeti 575 / motobecan fantom cross uno

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
serious road riders are 99% of the time going to be faster than serious track-bike-on-the-road riders. as soon as you think you're keeping up, they shift and disappear.
dddave is offline  
Old 03-07-09, 02:46 PM
  #69  
stevegor
Senior Member
 
stevegor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oz
Posts: 2,117

Bikes: lots... even a Raleigh twenty !!!

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gentlemen, let us stop all this sabre rattling and chest beating about racing each other....whether fixed, SS, 10spd Shimano, 11 spd Campag or IGH, we're all part of the human race and whether we like it or not we are all participating in this unavoidable "RAT RACE" for which there very few winners, so let's just enjoy our wise choice, whatever that may be, and ride our bikes......(I could beat the lot of ya)

Last edited by stevegor; 03-07-09 at 02:48 PM. Reason: correction
stevegor is offline  
Old 03-07-09, 04:55 PM
  #70  
j3ffr3y
chickenosaurus
 
j3ffr3y's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 1,189

Bikes: 2010 Motobecane Team Track, 1997 GT Edge, 2012 Kilo TT Stripper

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
No, usually not. if the guy has full racing kit and a good bike, I let him pass.
j3ffr3y is offline  
Old 03-10-09, 05:57 AM
  #71  
sunv
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Philly
Posts: 268

Bikes: 56cm IRO Mark V

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
When I first got my fixed gear, I could always beat my friend that rode his specialized allez going up this one hill. But probably it was more mental than anything because with fixed you know you have to speed up and get over the hill fast, and not take your dilly dally time getting over it because if you go too slow you'll end up really mashing hard while not really moving much. Also it helped that the cranks would come around again from the momentum of moving forward, which helped me push for the next pedal stroke, while for him there was this dead zone in his pedal stroke.

But its true on flats, roadies dominate me. My same friend when racing on flats, I max out at 23mph. He can shift down and all of a sudden drop his cadence and be doing 26mph while I'd hanging on for my life with my legs and butt bouncing out of my saddle.

Last edited by sunv; 03-10-09 at 06:01 AM.
sunv is offline  
Old 03-10-09, 09:19 AM
  #72  
52x15
Slainte!
 
52x15's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 44
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I dominate the flats, usually get dropped on hills, but make up for it on the descents
52x15 is offline  
Old 03-10-09, 11:20 AM
  #73  
ryanlovesyou
veggieburglar
 
ryanlovesyou's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Santa Barbara/San Jose, CA
Posts: 647

Bikes: 60s Peugeot conversion, 2002 Santa Cruz Heckler, 2007 Bianchi "Everyone has one" Pista, Beat up Beach Cruiser

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
If you are faster than the road riders you ride with, then you are obviously not riding with very fast road riders.
ryanlovesyou is offline  
Old 03-10-09, 11:26 AM
  #74  
SoreFeet
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,108
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts
I ride with a group twice my age...So yeah I can keep up but I get pretty tired towards the end. I did one ride with a 52/17 and that had me in pain.

I can actually climb faster in 42/17 than I can on my geared bike. It seems hammering on the pedals and the fixed assist really helps.

The lighter composite bicycles are stiff and compliant like no other. They are lighter and more efficient than old steel. Not to say that steel is inferior but carbon bikes with tightly spaced gear ratios are a helluva lot faster than my fixie or 5 speed cluster.
SoreFeet is offline  
Old 03-10-09, 11:50 AM
  #75  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by helloamerican View Post
no, they're certainly pissed because they paid 5k for their bike but can't move it faster than a punkass child with a conversion.


cause we're stereotyping for fact right?
I thought it was funny when some capri pant wearing kid passed me on his FG, and commented "nice spandex Lance". I was in the middle of my weekly longer ride(80-90 miles and about 5000ft elevation gain), and he's obviously going home after class(he had text books and a lock on his rack).
BoSoxYacht is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.