Never ask a guy wearing $18 shoes and a knit cap to pony up. This person will most likely be homeless.

None of his photos are with his leg at the bottom of his pedal stroke so he might be in the neighborhood of getting proper extension.

Ride your bike more and your legs will quickly get too big to fit into skinny jeans

What is wrong with wearing chucks and a beanie?
Did I break the rules by not wearing eras and a cycling cap?

And I'm far from homeless, I just have bills and ****. So the term "pony up" isn't exactly EASY for me to follow. Although it looks like I will anyways.

And **** you. Did you have a bad day or something? I'm asking for help regarding size, not my fashion sense. Are you so insecure you have to talk **** to someone asking for help to make yourself feel better?

As for the front white tire. They used to match and I skidded through the back tire and switched em. The white happened to be cheaper than a black tire. Sorry my color-coordination isn't up to your standards.

So what do you guys think? This frame is 51cm. I'm guessing I should go with a 53?
Nobody around here carries Pake frames so there's really no way for me to test one.
All the parts should be compatible too, right?

Thanks to those who are actually on these boards to help others out.
I appreciate it.

i'd say if your frame was uncomfortable move up to a 53. but you said you rode 30+ miles and you felt fine, so i'd say just enjoy your bike. **** haters

This image shows a decent extension and if you say you weren't sore from a 35 mile ride, then it looks like you shouldn't worry about getting another frame. I would personally want a few more inches on the fork and I'd flip the stem to give a more upright position, but if it works... it works.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e157/erpdat/bike1.jpg

Besides the girl jeans, I see nothing wrong with these pictures. If it feels comfortable (the ride), that's all that matters.

Thanks Jared. I never even thought about adjusting the fork. So you're saying I can get a fork a couple inches taller and be able to lower the seat post a bit? Or how would that benefit me exactly.. I dig what you're saying but am a bit confused as to its benefits.

Also, it was more comfortable when the stem was flipped but also more cramped.

Wasn't sure if I should sacrifice seat to bar drop for reach or not.

I just feel like I look like a giant on this whip. It's real fun to ride. And I DO get sore at times (calves, thighs and back) but that is it.

Mostly, I just don't want to look like a fool.

Moving to Portland soon and I know its the capitol of bike-snobs and just don't feel like getting called out on the daily.

Once I build my legs up I'll start wearing baggier jeans, promise ;)

You worry too much about people think. Just ride man.
You're bikes to small. Big whoop.
My bikes are too big. Big whoop.
Ride the piss out of it.
Ride it, then upgrade like everyone else does.

Just for the record: I'd much rather have a bike that was a couple cm too big than a couple cm too small. Just my personal preference.

Dude a 51cm is the perfect size for someone your height. PLEASE PLEASE stop reading this thread and listening to advise from people that obviously don't know a god dam thing about bike fit. Enjoy your bike. Honestly I'm stunned by some of the **** I'm reading here.

The reason it won't fit worth a crap is that you obviously have a super long, low stem with all your weight forward on your hands. Hell, your hands are almost forwards of your axle! You tower over that frame too. With that setup, and the sloped seat, you're going to eventually start hurting.

Chucks....haha I love it.


Eras and a cycling cap?... what are you talking about?

Don't worry about following the rules of ss/fixed. You got the look down pat. I wouldn't say "Far" from homeless, I mean you probably technically do have a room in someones apartment.


Buddy....if all you really wanted was help determining your size, you could of

A. spent 3 minutes on google

B. read the repeated advice of people in this thread



30 people have told you the same thing and you STILL don't get it. You're STILL asking the same stupid question over and over. How do you not understand sizing?

You're SO paranoid about how looking right and cool on a bike that you have to post stupid pictures of yourself and hammer the thread even though YOUR QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED.

There is nothing worse than a fixie loser acting like he's not into for the fashion. I just hate kids like you, you make me want to not ride fixed or be associated with it.

In other words, you are a g.a.y. d.0.u.c.h.e.b.a.g.

Not that you didnt already know that. I am sure people have told you that before.

there are so many things about this that make me angry. first of all, it takes a really big person to go around on forums and trash people they don't know for incredibly trivial reasons. if you really are so high and mighty above the "fixie losers" why are you wasting your time on here picking on people? This guy has done something few people here do by posting pictures, he has proved that he ACTUALLY RIDES HIS BIKE. yeah there might be some dumb "fixie hipsters" on here, but at least they have enough pride to keep doing what they are doing and not bash others for being "different". i hope you know that you've made a fool of yourself.

also, the fact that you called him a "g.a.y. d.0.u.c.h.e.b.a.g." says loads about your maturity level. namely, it is pretty much even with a 7th grade girl. why am i sticking up for a complete stranger? probably because i hate seeing **** like this all over bikeforums. also he seems like a normal guy with a normal question riding a normal bike. none of these statements apply to you. so please, respond to me and validate all of the claims you made. i'm sure you'll get plenty of support here from your fellow fixed-gear purists.

have a great day

lol
The only thing that's not funny about djc's post is the g.a.y comment. Everything else was spot on.

i.e.- its funny cause its not me.

I'm exactly your height. I ride a 53 Soma Rush, which I believe has the same geometry as a Pake. I wouldn't worry about it, if I were you.

it means he is still growing lol

that frame is way too small for you, go to a pro shop and get a real assessment of fit, god knows you shouldnt rely on some of these posts especially the old guy who claims to know more by virtue of being old and unable to change

i mean really, one hand position? i find several on bullhorns and tehy are among the most limited bars, and he came up with his perfect only use this hand position with much thought and reflection gawd what a joke.

reallly guy, if u plan to cycle a lot then you need a fit, or at least use the calculator that poster put up, really.

u r young but not dumb enough to trust inexperienced and delusional people on the internet right?

pro up your game, you dont need to be a pro to take advantage of the knowledge/

and really, if good sense cannot prevail let your shame be your guide, i'm a girl, a cyclist and a fan of fixed gears

you look stupid. fix it

and that frame is my size, you are more than 6 inches taller than me. gawdalmighty

lots of kids buy a frame that looks cool to them, svelte means not too big because big is awkward, i'm sure that bike feels fine to you but you wont feel wrong until you've actually ridden some and then its damage done

go ask the road forum, they put in general way more miles on, and have the knowledge passed on from the greatest riders in the world. you really do look like a newb that last picked a bike out in the 4th grade. and it isnt just about looks, you wont feel uncomfortable until it's too late

if you actually ride your bike

You must not know that its pretty common for roadies to size themselves up to 3cm smaller on a bike to get an aggressive fit. There are some mighty big generalizations made in your response, let the guy ask questions, if you can't answer them, shut the **** up. How about that?


One drawback to a threadless system is you have to dial it in correctly the first time, then that's it. At least a threaded system will allow you to raise and lower the quill indefinitely. I suggested that you buy a new fork, measure and cut it with a few more inches on the steerer, space it and flip the stem, which should give you a more upright position, keeping your back from getting sore. You probably don't need to lower/raise your seat post.

Do yourself a favor and at least fit yourself with a fit calculator, I posted one earlier. That way you will have an idea of where to go, as it gives you important measurements like BB to saddle, saddle to bars, top tube dimensions, etc.

There are different fit styles, and his bike would be too small on ALL of them. The top tube on that bike is plain too short. Period. If he put drops on that he would be screwed.


Thats not true either. Most road bike quill stems(unless you buy the nitto techtronic) have a very short adjustment range...maby 4-5cm at most. You can get way more adjustment from a threadless using spacers and flipping the stem. Also, he doesnt need a new fork with a longer steerer tube, that will make his reach SHORTER. He needs a frame that fits, so stop giving him bad advice.

If I actually ride my bike?
I use it for transportation, so yeah, I ride my ****ing bike.
Do you ride a bike? Or are you just coming here looking for HoTTiE fiXeD gEAr GuYz**********

There's no way I'd go above a 53cm Pake.

And the top tube length is 10mm longer and the standover is 0.6" taller.
Is this really going to make that big of a difference here?

And to those asking me to go get a pro fit, not going to happen.. Not spending $500 to spend $500

The top tube would be longer, however the head tube would be taller as well. So you would be more stretched out AS WELL as there would be less drop from your saddle to the bars.

The idea with a performance oriented bike like a track bike or road bike is that it's designed to maximize the amount of power you can put to the wheels by lining everything up so all the points of contact between you and the bike maximize your biomechanical efficiency. In that light, it doesn't make sense to ride a bike that is going to tire you out by forcing you to use your energy to adapt to poor positioning.

Now mind you, I'm not weighing in on whether the bike does or doesn't fit you, that's simply the rationale for WHY fit is so important

Actually, this is pretty incorrect. An aggressive fit on a road bike is longer (and lower) not smaller.

Clearly, I'm in the minority here but I don't think that bike looks so-incredibly-super-small for you. Would a 53 be better? Maybe. Is it comfortable now? Yes. Will people who see you riding it in person think it looks ridiculously small? Probably not. The truth is that the vast majority of posters here have no idea what they're talking about and should not be listened to about anything

Is this in English?

Put the frame/fork on craigslist for 175.
getting a 53cm pake.

THREAD

Yay.

This is key here. I have two bikes that are both 58CM C-C, but one has a longer top tube and is comfterable. The other one is shorter, and is very painful to ride for long distances. You can get stems to adjust the height of your bars, but you can't make a too short top tube longer very well.