New bike help
Hey guys I posted a month ago I'd be getting a bike.
The bike is a road bike Im pretty sure it's a three speed. I'm getting it for 60ish and I want to convert it to a fixed gear. My main question is how much money would this project take? And what parts would I need to swap out? I can't really do the conversion myself so I'll have a lbs do it for me. I'd probably buy the parts for him in exchange he could do the work on it. But yeah it's kinda urgent and I'm sorry that this questions been asked plenty time sbefore. Thank you so much. |
Well without knowing the exact bike, and if you want SS or fixed it is hard to say. It may have 27" wheels and a riveted crank. If this is the case and you want it to be SS you can remove the deraileurs and shorten the chain, that is the real cheap fix. If you want it fixed, you may want to get new wheels and a new crank set. At the shop I work at you would be looking at $85 for the rear wheel, $75 for the matching front, $10-50 for cog and lockring, and $90 for the crankset (all Canadian dollars). I am sure you can spend less and you can easily spend more. Give us some more details, and we can give you a better answer.
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Originally Posted by josephkim
(Post 8494202)
My main question is how much money would this project take? And what parts would I need to swap out?
Originally Posted by josephkim
(Post 8494202)
I can't really do the conversion myself so I'll have a lbs do it for me. I'd probably buy the parts for him in exchange he could do the work on it.
Originally Posted by josephkim
(Post 8494202)
But yeah it's kinda urgent and I'm sorry that this questions been asked plenty time sbefore. Thank you so much.
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Sounds like a Raleigh Sport. If so, it'll have 650A wheels which will be steel and without hooked beads. I'd get rid of those wheels for new alloy ones but the Sturmey-Archer hub you can sell, along with the shifter and cable and pulley wheel on eBay. Or sell the wheels and stuff as a set.
It'll have a cottered crank. If it is a Raleigh, it'll be their 26tpi threading so keep that bottom bracket. Clean it, get new ball bearings, loose ones, and then get a new square taper axle for your new crankset. Or, keep the cottered cranks. But do rebuild the bottom bracket and replace the bearings. I'd replace the brake cables and housings. Use the old ones as guides for cutting new ones. Before I got a nice set of cable cutters, I used a dremel tool. Regular wire cutters mash the housing. Sheldonbrown.com has a lot of info. on working with older bikes; it was a great help to me when I built up this Raleigh 3-speed. http://gallery.mac.com/bbattle/100072/100_0342/web.jpg http://gallery.mac.com/bbattle/100072/100_0357/web.jpg http://gallery.mac.com/bbattle/100072/100_0437/web.jpg |
^^^what makes you think its a Raleigh based on what the OP said.
OP - get some pics of the new ride up and we can help more. |
Originally Posted by HandsomeRyan
(Post 8494717)
Why can't you do it? You may not currently have the tools/knowledge but it'll be cheaper to learn than to just pay someone else to build it for you.
I wouldn't treat building up a bike as an urgent matter. I know it's exciting but take your time / do it right. Good luck! |
hmmkay. its deffinitely not a raleigh sport. well ill get pictures up once i get it.. thanks for the help guys.
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alright my dad just came home and brought it...
its a suntour univega. im not sure what year. but i just took it out for a spin and its nice. i think one of the tires need work. some parts are switched out with shimano parts. uhm so basically what do i need to change out? i think pedals, crankshaft, hub, im not sure.. thanks. http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSC_0001.jpg http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSC_0002.jpg http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSC_0004.jpg http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSC_0005.jpg http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSC_0006.jpg http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSC_0007.jpg http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSC_0008.jpg http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSC_0009.jpg |
Oh yeah and I would like to get it fixed instead of ss
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you could probably get away w/ a new rear wheel, lock ring, and cog
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I hate to tell ya, but the fork is bent, and bent bad. I would check the downtube on the bike as well. If the paint is crinkled then the frame has is also bent. At the very minimum you need a new fork.
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You need to do some basic research first
While the sticky on the top of this forum that says 'start here' may be a little subtle, I'd suggest starting your conversion there. It links to many wonderful places that will be indispensable to your quest. And a question for the rest of you, have you ever seen a bike with shimano 600 and suicide brakes? That's just a little odd. |
Hmmkay. Is it possible to just ride with the current fork? And don't I need to get rid of all the other gear thingies? ( excuse me for my lack of knolledge of bike jargon.) like the deraileur or whatever? And I know this sounds stupid but what dies the lockeing actually lock.. Hahaha thanks
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Originally Posted by josephkim
(Post 8500856)
Hmmkay. Is it possible to just ride with the current fork? And don't I need to get rid of all the other gear thingies? ( excuse me for my lack of knolledge of bike jargon.) like the deraileur or whatever? And I know this sounds stupid but what dies the lockeing actually lock.. Hahaha thanks
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Originally Posted by jtarver
(Post 8500916)
if I understand your first post, it sounds as if you think labor comes free when you buy parts, which is not the case.
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Yeah thanks guys. I hve been systematically googling and using sheldon brown fir reference. I kinda get the jist. Thanks
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you can find a cheap steel fork off nashbar or ebay
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That actually looks like a pretty decent frame, but the fork is dangerously shot. As mentioned, you can pick up a cheap fork, but at the very least, you should have a shop inspect the frame to check the head tube integrity before going any further. Fork / headset installation requires a few tools. Is there a coop in your area? That would be a great place to learn some basic wrenching and save a bundle on labor.
If you make this "urgent," it won't come together. Read up, find the right parts, and learn how to work on the bike. If you're not willing to go that route, scrape together $300 for a complete, entry-level bike. fwiw, Shimano 600 is decent stuff. I'd use that crank and definitely hold onto the derailers if / when you realize you want gears again. |
That's not a bad frame, assuming it isn't suffering more damage than that dangerously bent fork.
You can post pics of the bike in the Classic and Vintage forum; they'll be able to give you lots of info. and advice on the bike. |
Originally Posted by kyselad
(Post 8502568)
Fork / headset installation requires a few tools. Is there a coop in your area? That would be a great place to learn some basic wrenching and save a bundle on labor.
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Start taking parts off it so if you do take it to a shop to get inspected they can check out everything for you. You can use the stock cranks btw, shimano 600 is decent stuff just as long as the bottom bracket is good you can use the stock cranks.
Replace fork New wheels Cog & Lockring Chain Handlebar wrap that's if the frame isn't busted or the BB is shot. |
Originally Posted by AngryScientist
(Post 8494802)
^^^what makes you think its a Raleigh based on what the OP said.
OP - get some pics of the new ride up and we can help more. The bike is a road bike Im pretty sure it's a three speed. I'm getting it for 60ish and I want to convert it to a fixed gear. My main question is how much money would this project take? And what parts would I need to swap out? I can't really do the conversion myself so I'll have a lbs do it for me. I'd probably buy the parts for him in exchange he could do the work on it. But yeah it's kinda urgent and I'm sorry that this questions been asked plenty time sbefore. Thank you so much. It could have been a Schwinn 3-speed but wouldn't have made much difference. |
hmmmkay. ill try getting decent pics of the frame.. i took a look at it and it looks fine. so thanks for the help. and when i said urgent it was regarding the fact that i was going to get the bike in a day or two. i know that i cant reallly set up teh bike that fast. but yeah. how much do shimano parts cost? because im a bit shy on money so maye i can just sell the deraleuir.. but yeah thanks guys
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Dude, it would probably be faster/cheaper for you to part that one out, sell the pieces on e-bay, save your pennies, and buy a new fixie on bikesdirect for $300-350, especially since you don't really know what you're doing.
If you buy the new fixie, you're ready to go after spending $300-350 with a brand new bike that's ready to ride. If you do the conversion, it's going to be: Bike - $60. Wheels - $100 if you just get a rear track wheel, $200+ if you go for a new set of 700c wheels in shiny colors, in which case you may also need new brakes. Fork - $50 Cog/Lockring - $15-40 Chain - $10 Handlebar wrap- $0(used inner tube is fine)-$15. Pedals/Toeclips/Toe Straps - $20-40. Crank - $0 (if your existing one has the right chainline (or does if you use spacers) - $85+ if you need a new crank/bottom bracket. +$50 or so to have it all built. Total that up and you're at $300+ on the conservative end for the conversion. Or you buy this one for $319 http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/.../clockwork.htm, spend a few minutes putting the handle bars on and doing the final assembly with an Allen wrench, and you're good to go. It's your call, and building bikes is tremendous fun if you've got access to the right tools, but paying somebody else to cobble together a conversion may not be the best bet if you're on a budget. |
If you are shy on money, you should just ride the bike as it is right now and save your money to rebuild it later.
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