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Some lock advice from a locksmith

Old 03-18-09, 11:49 PM
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I've got to agree with Scratch on this one. It makes no sense at all to use an ultra secure padlock with a very insecure and easily to snip cable. What's the rationalization behind this odd locking combo?
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Old 03-19-09, 12:15 AM
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old scratch give it a rest... why are you so relentless? crawddaddio answered these questions multiple times... can't you guys read? jeesh
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Old 03-19-09, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jgrant75
old scratch give it a rest... why are you so relentless? crawddaddio answered these questions multiple times... can't you guys read? jeesh
Where did he answer about the logic of using a high zoot padlock with a cable which is extremely easy to snip?
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first page he said use a chain if you dont mind the weight...

the logic is to spend more than 10 bucks at home depot (hardware superstore) on a padlock if you are going to use one.

would you be more open to a NY messenger recommending the same padlock?
https://www.nybma.com/faq/question3.htm
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Thanks for a great series of posts crawdaddio
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Originally Posted by jgrant75
first page he said use a chain if you dont mind the weight...

the logic is to spend more than 10 bucks at home depot (hardware superstore) on a padlock if you are going to use one.

would you be more open to a NY messenger recommending the same padlock?
https://www.nybma.com/faq/question3.htm
It's not about just the lock, but rather the lock/cable combo. It's using them together which makes no sense.
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Originally Posted by jgrant75
first page he said use a chain if you dont mind the weight...

the logic is to spend more than 10 bucks at home depot (hardware superstore) on a padlock if you are going to use one.

would you be more open to a NY messenger recommending the same padlock?
https://www.nybma.com/faq/question3.htm
right. our point is that if you use the cable, the weak point is the cable, so the expensive padlock isnt relevant.
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Old 03-19-09, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by old scratch
right. our point is that if you use the cable, the weak point is the cable, so the expensive padlock isnt relevant.
pretty sure the point of the cable was just to require the thief to carry two different tools.

could be wrong, dont rip my head off. im just basing this on memory, didnt go back to check or anything.

in furtherance of this thread going to absolute sh*t...

personally, im going to get lojack and a forcefield for my bike. suck it. haha

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Old 03-19-09, 10:09 AM
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Cable locks work just fine. You guys are insane.
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Personally, I love this thread for one reason: someone linked to Sheldon's rear wheel u-lock technique. I've been reading his site for years and never noticed it. So obvious I even had to stare at it for five minutes and read it twice before I wrapped my head around it.
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Old 04-29-10, 07:26 PM
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Bump in light of recent events.
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Originally Posted by carleton
Bump in light of recent events.
What recent events? Do you have a link? Thanks.
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Old 04-29-10, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ziemas
What recent events? Do you have a link? Thanks.
The recent event was quite tragic...
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...s-just-stolen.
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Another bump, in light of some more recent events... and a question: what do you guys think about "Bicycle Security Alarms"? There's this, for example.
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Here's my personal theft story: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ty-of-Illinois

Currently in the process of buying a crap-load of Kryptonites and OnGuards.
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Old 05-05-10, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops
Another bump, in light of some more recent events... and a question: what do you guys think about "Bicycle Security Alarms"? There's this, for example.
Totally useless. One decent whack with whatever tool is at hand and that thing would fall apart, not that anyone would take any notice of it anyway.
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Originally Posted by crawdaddio

WD-40 is a water displacement product. It is used as a cleaner, not a lubricant. When it dries, it will also attract particulates, gunking up your lock. It SHOULD be used on OLD, gunky, rusty, cruddy locks to clean them out. Spray some into the keyway and all moving parts. Wait 5 minutes or so and wipe as much out as you can. Wait as long as you can to let it dry out, and apply a teflon lubricant.
Told you so.
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Old 05-06-10, 12:23 AM
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Wow great thread crawdaddio, learned alot, will definitely put it into practice.
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Old 05-09-10, 06:08 PM
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Just need to double check; how safe are barrel type locks (larger than kryptonite size)?

I recently bought a NOS bike club (same company that makes "the club" for cars) compact, that's pretty beefy, at a garage sale for $1; and I was hoping to use this to accompany my krypto mini [the krypto gets the frame and rear wheel; bikeclub gets the front and downtube]

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Old 05-10-10, 11:19 AM
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If you are referring to barrel or "tubular" keyed locks, they are quite vulnerable to being picked open or easily drilled out.

Example of an ACE style "tubular" key:
https://cache3.smarthome.com/images/70410.jpg
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never ever ever use a Master Lock no.3 to lock up your bike. I am a total noob and can pick it in well under a minute.
My dad was using that to lock up his bike along with a pretty beefy chain.
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Yea it does have tubular lock; I guess I'll use the lock only in conjunction with my mini LS (the krypto being the pivotal lock and it being the latter)

Originally Posted by j3ffr3y
never ever ever use a Master Lock no.3 to lock up your bike. I am a total noob and can pick it in well under a minute.
My dad was using that to lock up his bike along with a pretty beefy chain.

Same here; all I need is a empty beer or soda can. But that's as far as I'm going to say.
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Originally Posted by old scratch
incidentally, yunno what i would like? a smaller mini that would be just big enough to lock the rear wheel to the frame via the seat stays. that way you could use a short but robust chain (perhaps a "noose" type)to lock front wheel and frame to the parking meter, and then manage the other wheel with the tiny U.

get to work on that kryptonite. you could sell it as the total package, all keyed alike.
just thought i would point out what this guy is recommending...
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Old 05-12-10, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_Firebolt
just thought i would point out what this guy is recommending...
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